Speed run instances are killing PLD

[waldo]

Pickup groups will follow the easiest strategy possible regardless of a time-based reward. Countless pickup groups have been run using "cookie cutter setups" without any intention or hope of accomplishing a 5 chest clear. In 1.18, people stacked ARCs for Darkhold before they even knew there was a 25 minute chest to be had. In 1.19, people stacked LNCs when there was no time-based reward at all. 1.20 brought more ARC stacking, and again no time-based reward. Am I really supposed to believe now that 1.21 class stacking and cookie cutter setups are because of the 5 chest time condition, which you've just told me most people can't accomplish anyway?

I'm telling you the speed run is built for the easiest route. Why try anything other than easiest way if it pays out the best?
I see you Raikki, do you tank AV/CC with warrior or paladin? I'd venture a guess of warrior.
You, and everyone else, should not be rewarded for doing it the easy way. It should be just the opposite, high risk high reward, NOT low risk high reward.
Not a personal attack against you or any other person, it's just speed run is done the easy way and the easy way should not be the most rewarding.

[Raikki]

I'm telling you the speed run is built for the easiest route. Why try anything other than easiest way if it pays out the best?
I see you Raikki, do you tank AV/CC with warrior or paladin? I'd venture a guess of warrior.
You, and everyone else, should not be rewarded for doing it the easy way. It should be just the opposite, high risk high reward, NOT low risk high reward.
Not a personal attack against you or any other person, it's just speed run is done the easy way and the easy way should not be the most rewarding.

Not a personal attack against you, but I've seen your profile and obviously "the easy way" for you is to PLD tank because you haven't leveled WAR. Of course you're going to be biased about which class to tank it on when you don't have a choice. I have both, and can play both competently, and if I asked my LS to let me PLD tank they would have no problem with it. I choose WAR like everyone else because it's more efficient, and when you're farm-clearing 5 chest runs hundreds of times it stopped being about the "challenge" a long time ago. My first CC clear was tanking on GLA (pre-1.21a) if it makes you feel any better.

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Edit: you say "the easy way should not be the most rewarding" but in the original post you say:

Get rid of this 'speed run' drop please, I'd much rather have a 5th chest for killing all monsters in the zone instead.

Anyone can tell you the chest condition you proposed is many many times easier than the speed run.