Speed run instances are killing PLD

[waldo]

I get the allure of Clearing an instance fast, I understand it's of course more desirable to finish an event in 20 minutes as opposed to 45. Here is what I don't get: why give the community another excuse to take a warrior tank over a paladin? Don't they have enough? I'm ok with having two tanking styles, but Seriously if I get thumbed over for a warrior because the odds of getting a 5th chest are much better (because of faster kills) something's not right. Sure it can be done with paladin, but it can be done routinely with a warrior.
Get rid of this 'speed run' drop please, I'd much rather have a 5th chest for killing all monsters in the zone instead.

[Reinheart]

JP side has a thread specifically talking about getting rid of TA (Time Attack) chest since it only allows certain setup group with player skills to obtain rather than getting any type of regular party setup and try to get 5/5 chest.

[syntaxlies]

JP side has a thread specifically talking about getting rid of TA (Time Attack) chest since it only allows certain setup group with player skills to obtain rather than getting any type of regular party setup and try to get 5/5 chest.

even if they got rid of it poeple would still do the same thing. The faster you kill the more chest you get no matter what. If team a takes 30 mins to get 5 chest and team b take 60 mins, then after 2 hours your looking at 20 chest compared to 10(given they removed timed chest). Removing the timed chest will ease it a little but not much will change imo.

Personally I wish they would put 50-100%drop rate and a 24 hour timer

[Reinheart]

even if they got rid of it poeple would still do the same thing. The faster you kill the more chest you get no matter what. If team a takes 30 mins to get 5 chest and team b take 60 mins, then after 2 hours your looking at 20 chest compared to 10(given they removed timed chest). Removing the timed chest will ease it a little but not much will change imo.

Personally I wish they would put 50-100%drop rate and a 24 hour timer

Sure it would take longer but some groups just go in as friends/linkshell and if they don't have the desired speed run setup they still have chance of going after 5/5, even with regular outsiders only setup they don't have to worry about the T/A chest and would also open up more people to try the event rather than feeling left out for leveling up the wrong job first and not being able to be invited to any event.

[Raikki]

Don't touch speedrun unless you replace it with something actually challenging instead. I'm not saying it's a particularly fun or exciting chest condition, but removing it in favor of another mindless condition like "kill all mobs" dumbs the instance down when it's already pretty easy to begin with. PLD's problem isn't the speedrun condition, it's the job/boss mechanics.

[EdenArchangel]

Where is this JP post about removing time attack so I can like it?

[Reinheart]

Where is this JP post about removing time attack so I can like it?

http://goo.gl/BYyjG

[waldo]

I don't care that warrior is a better tank in certain situations, that's ok by me. I do care the job I want to play is excluded from groups because of the timed chest.
It's bad enough we have partys of 5 monks, a warrior, and a few white mages dominating certain fights (fist of fire).
Here's an idea SE, reward a group for taking a more difficult route and nerf the drops for these cookie-cutter groups. Right now you got it ass-backwards. People that want to / enjoy a more diverse / difficult set-up are exiled.

[waldo]

even if they got rid of it poeple would still do the same thing. The faster you kill the more chest you get no matter what. If team a takes 30 mins to get 5 chest and team b take 60 mins, then after 2 hours your looking at 20 chest compared to 10(given they removed timed chest). Removing the timed chest will ease it a little but not much will change imo.

Personally I wish they would put 50-100%drop rate and a 24 hour timer

Who's to say team B would take 60 minutes? Why is it you assume that? I'd venture to guess the time would be closer to 5-10 minutes longer at the most.

You could spend that time shouting in ul'dah for a warrior though, if it pleases you.

[DeadRiser]

This. x1021365413621354

I don't like that to complete some of these "speed runs", it requires stupid class/job stacking.

I went into a "speed run" party and it was pretty lame in AV. Stacked 5 black mages in the beggining, then stacked 5 monks at the boss. I don't want to be "required" with these setups just to get a chest that has a horrible drop rate to begin with.