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  1. #511
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    If WoL does get full animated actions for a cutscene, I can only assume it may have to be during the time after WoL awakens his powers as Azem so they have a story reason why WoL can use X or Y skills during a cutscene when he/she is X or Y job.
    Well since we do have our Azem stone right now and this does probably play after Elidibus is gone they could have had a good enough reason to give our WoL a nice little shield. But since they never gave us a scene where the WoL learnt their anti-tempering shield I doubt they would truly need a reason to give it to us.

    Guess in the end Fray is just so annoying in our heads that we are constantly not 100% there in the real world or she simply hoped that she could finally punch a primal again.
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  2. #512
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Well since we do have our Azem stone right now and this does probably play after Elidibus is gone they could have had a good enough reason to give our WoL a nice little shield. But since they never gave us a scene where the WoL learnt their anti-tempering shield I doubt they would truly need a reason to give it to us.

    Guess in the end Fray is just so annoying in our heads that we are constantly not 100% there in the real world or she simply hoped that she could finally punch a primal again.
    Well we have to wait and see since lore wise, current WoL has not even awakened his powers as Azem yet. All of it is still sealed away inside the Azem Soul Crystal. The upcoming MSQ maybe about awakening those memories and powers through the course of 5.4 to 6.0
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  3. #513
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    Regarding the Blades.... (spoilers)

    1010101010

    Given what happens with Gunnhildr I'm expecting the now tempered Gunnhildr's Blades to be Misija's lackeys and probably be put down unless Ba Gu is returned to normal and proving that tempering can be undone (and that Alisaile is involved) by then.

    I'm also expecting Misija herself to become either the Final boss of a BA equivalent or a Trial, in either scenario she will further the Ysayle parallels and merge with the primal. I must also posit the possibility that future upgrades to them would be to ensure that their new bearers if any are Temper-proofed perhaps even going with a more humane way of granting them the powers of the resonant
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  4. #514
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    1010101010

    Given what happens with Gunnhildr I'm expecting the now tempered Gunnhildr's Blades to be Misija's lackeys and probably be put down unless Ba Gu is returned to normal and proving that tempering can be undone (and that Alisaile is involved) by then.

    I'm also expecting Misija herself to become either the Final boss of a BA equivalent or a Trial, in either scenario she will further the Ysayle parallels and merge with the primal. I must also posit the possibility that future upgrades to them would be to ensure that their new bearers if any are Temper-proofed perhaps even going with a more humane way of granting them the powers of the resonant
    Considering the Coils of Bahamut...
    Extremely powerful Primals can give up their tempered thralls and turn them back to normal when they want to. I suspect we'll be saving them via purifying the blade itself, and then the blade will probably end up killing Misija for daring to manipulate it like this. That of course will be after a trial/BA thing where we defeat her first.
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  5. #515
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    1010101010

    Given what happens with Gunnhildr I'm expecting the now tempered Gunnhildr's Blades to be Misija's lackeys and probably be put down unless Ba Gu is returned to normal and proving that tempering can be undone (and that Alisaile is involved) by then.

    I'm also expecting Misija herself to become either the Final boss of a BA equivalent or a Trial, in either scenario she will further the Ysayle parallels and merge with the primal. I must also posit the possibility that future upgrades to them would be to ensure that their new bearers if any are Temper-proofed perhaps even going with a more humane way of granting them the powers of the resonant
    More likely the Blades will be opponents of 5.4 equivalent of Southern Bozjan Front area and be the source of duels and fates. And if I'm totally honest, I can't wait to fight Stanick; he has kicked monsters out of melee range for the last time.
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  6. #516
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    1010101010

    Given what happens with Gunnhildr I'm expecting the now tempered Gunnhildr's Blades to be Misija's lackeys and probably be put down unless Ba Gu is returned to normal and proving that tempering can be undone (and that Alisaile is involved) by then.

    I'm also expecting Misija herself to become either the Final boss of a BA equivalent or a Trial, in either scenario she will further the Ysayle parallels and merge with the primal. I must also posit the possibility that future upgrades to them would be to ensure that their new bearers if any are Temper-proofed perhaps even going with a more humane way of granting them the powers of the resonant
    Temper temper my Mom always say

    Queen Gunhildyr could release the temper she put on the blades but is unlikely to do so before we deal with Misija and soothe her wrath.

    Queen Gunhildyr hasn't tempered anyone before now unlike Odin or more accurately Zansetsuken vs Save the Queen, the blade didn't even awake until Misija held it, this may have given the Queen the reassurance that Bozja lived on but when Misija declares otherwise grief and anguish sink in over being manipulated (Love the irony here XD) by her own people.

    That is probably what we will deal with in 5.4 the Queen's manipulated wrath, now what happens after who knows she may ask to be destroyed, she may continue being angry and never let go of the blades thus we would be forced to execute them, but based on how long she has remained dormant in the Save the Queen blade it stands to reason she is not naturally a primal who tempers by presence(like Ramuh) but by forcing it onto others (like Ifrit, Zansetsuken, Bahamut) so when we defeat her the sword and everyone could be ok.
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  7. #517
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    Bozja stuff

    I find it interesting that Basch requested Lucius to marry an impoverished Elezen noble. What could be the benefit in that? I wonder if it's possible that Menenius and his mother belong to some ancient important lineage? Maybe they have knowledge of ancient Allagan or Ivalician secrets?

    I do get the impression he plans on betraying Misija and I can't help but wonder if he'll somehow get access to Allagan neuralink/ mind-control device and use that on her? Imagine what he can do if he can control Misija who has the Resonant and can't manipulate memories on top of controlling a Primal that can temper people.

    Unless Misija sees the future and does something about it
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    Last edited by myahele; 10-22-2020 at 03:08 AM.

  8. #518
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    Couple interesting things from more profiles I was able to gather

    Bows are used as instruments in traditional Bozjan dances, using the bowstring. Per tradition to honor their hunter ancestors all Bozjan Dancers are also skilled bowmen. Hrothgar DNC/BRD mains where you at?

    Some city names from Landis: Arnsbeirgs, Mons Falconis, and Mannatheihwo. Mannatheihwo had a company of mage-knights before Landis was coquered, and Garlemald crushed them out of hatred for magic and sent them scattering everywhere as they ran for their lives. Years later Basch rounded them up to enlist them against Dalmasca's soldiers.

    Dalmasca has a place called Revenia, which I'm pretty sure is a wholly original location to XIV.

    Also, there were Bozjans who fled to Dalmasca when Bozja was first conquered.
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    Last edited by JeanneOrnitier; 10-21-2020 at 12:51 PM.

  9. #519
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    Moogle finally completed Featherfall in Ishgard Restoration and after quite a bit of a quest chain
    it is said that Brume restoration began in the earnest! Do you think we will see it fully restored at some point?
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  10. #520
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erendis View Post
    Moogle finally completed Featherfall in Ishgard Restoration and after quite a bit of a quest chain
    it is said that Brume restoration began in the earnest! Do you think we will see it fully restored at some point?
    I'm suspecting that
    that's going to be the final stage of the Ishgard Restoration, fixing up The Brume.
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