Thread: Revelations from Patch 5.3

Originally Posted by Alleo

About Ardbert

Maybe I missed something but why is he still that much with us? At the end of Shadowbringers I thought he joined fully with us and is gone (since our soul was stronger and healed afterwards) I always took that walk towards his friends as symbolic.

When Minifila fully joined with Ryne she stopped existing so why does Ardbert still exist?(Not that I am not happy just confused)

It is most likely because he is a actual fragment of our original soul why he still exists as part of our being. With Ryne she was a new soul and not a fragment of Minfillia's soul.

However, since Ardbert is actual part of our soul thus he has become us and we have become him in the best way I can describe things. I will say more but it gets very confusing even for me and is going into Persona series level of a person's inner/true self, mentality, and desires.

In both Ryne and Minfillia case, both were separate beings that could not be compatible with each other thus one has to be delete for or else both will die due to constant rejection of both souls by the body. If both souls were compatible then they would have fused together like Ardbert and our character thus combining both memories and powers together. However, since their souls were far too different and the body was rejecting the existance of two different souls not compatible with each other, one had to disappear or else both could have died.

Spoilers for 5.3

This patch was just so fucking good. The teases and everything were fantastic, the buildup to the Elidibus fight, etc. Let me start by going over that Elidibus was such a fantastic villain. I'm glad to have seen so much more of him because let's face it, the guy has has been an enigmatic piss off since the ARR days ever since waking sands, warring triad references, etc. The part in Dawn's respite was perfectly eerie and I loved it. But I also loved the solo duty where Elidibus admits to us that we are stronger than him once he puts us on a trip down memory lane. That solo duty was fantastic. Testing the WOL by fighting all her enemies she vanquished.... it really shows that the WoL is incredibly powerful and like Elidibus said, death itself (really interesting) I knew by the time Warrior of light was teased it was going to be the fight or something close to it. It was just so amazing and i'm blown away. Also, the reveal that Warrior of light is the seat of Azem (the 14th member of the Ascians) even though it was pretty much confirmed since the end of 5.0 was really nice to have 100% confirmed. The question remains though... what if the scions found out we are ascian? We dont know it yet. At any rate I dont think they will find out until we fight Hydaelyn herself or Zodiark. It's definitely a huge huge reveal that I hope they keep for the right time.

I also felt this patch hit me hard. The Miqote little girl in the beginning..... Crystal Exarch dying in Norvrantd forever, Lyna crying, Elidibus's last words, the exarch narrating.... it was all so typically Final Fantasy. In fact, this patch was more Final Fantasy than ever. I love the FFI reference with Elidibus, the chemist job tease from the little M'iqote, and the possible Necromancer reference. The new dungeon was also pretty good. I like how it was basically a gauntlet throughout Norvrantd. The trial fight itself was a fitting finale for Shadowbringers and that music is great. The fight references a multitude of FF references but the Emet Selch wave midway through the trial made me smile.

Later on, Y'shtola flirting gave me life.... just saying even if it happened to be with Runar... it was just such a funny moment teasing him that's he's still a boy in a man's body. She's previously rejected Magnai after all, rofl. My god Y'shtola is just such a great character.... if she ever died the game would never be the same. That being said I kinda feel like they overdid it on the goodbyes here.

I'm really glad that the scions all got their souls back untrapped and can travel to the source now but does that means only Ryne and Gaia will be joining us for the finale with Eden? It kinda felt the scions were written out of that story this patch. Eden tied into the MSQ a little after all. Anyway, the last scene with Zenos and the reveal that white robed figure is an Ascian was so obvious. But man, Zenos ignoring Fandaniel taking the form of Brutus was fantastic. Brutus was his biggest fan after all.... it was so fucking hilarious for Zenos to pretty much call him a literally who. But man we killed 2 major Ascian bosses now and Fandaniel strikes me as just a bloodthirsty Ascian. I think he is obviously the final boss of next expansion and Zenos will be there as well. But can anything even top Emet Selch and Elidibus? Maybe Fandaniel? I dont know... Fandaniel was never mentioned before. We only know his name exists because he was one of the Ascian overlords. He is significantly weaker than both Emet and Elidibus possibly even combined. I'm very interested to see what they do with him. Oh and G'raha Tia now being a Scion was very expected. I expected he would die this patch but i'm glad he lived now in the source.

Originally Posted by Hazama999

I am... really not seeing this apothecary/chemist job a lot of people are EXTREMELY SURE OF.

Same here.

On Alisae and Alphinaud's future...

Alisae is dropping heavy hints that she's going to get a class change soon, probably as a preview to a new job next expansion. But I can't be the only one thinking that Alphinaud is due for a class change too. I personally think Bard fits him extremely well given his artistic tendencies and skills as an orator, plus the mental image of him pulling out a bow after a scathing lecture and smiting some fools with a Refulgent Arrow is hilarious.

Archers are the only original class not yet represented by the major Scions or allies.

Originally Posted by SaitoHikari

Archers are the only original class not yet represented by the major Scions or allies.

Ironically,

G'raha was the original representative Archer, but dropped the bow in favor of the all-rounder role he had as the Exarch.