Thread: Revelations from Patch 5.3

Originally Posted by Calixis

On another note, easy to miss, but you can 'talk' (overhear) the three Resistance soldiers who were giving lip to Misija and their plan to have the common-born leaders killed once Bozja is liberated in order to reinstate the noble caste system. Misjia's remark about Bajsaljen being "one of the first to go" due to his optimism of creating a new, more equal Bozja with her is presumably referencing said nobility and their plans to stop his designs coming to fruition. No doubt they're going to prove a problem in the future storyline.

In a certain point of view, no matter what side Misjia chosen the conflict between common born and nobility will remain a issue. Gabranth is a leader with ideas to create a nation of equality as is the same with Bajsaljen but as of now the conflict is more about which nation will be in control of the region.

Once the dust settles and the region is claimed no matter who wins the Nobility of both sides will make their move to claim control. Gabranth may have people follow him because of his promise and shown actions of equality but even he knows some of his followers are only loyal by word and not actions once he is considered no longer useful just like how certain resistance members plan to betray Bajsaljen if they claim back their country since he will be considered no longer useful by then.

In a way betrayal by people within their own ranks is the running theme for the Save the Queen Storyline.

Queen Gunnhildr betrayed by people she thought that she could trust because of fear and not going through with the intended plans of the nobility.

Bajsaljen betrayed by Misjia because she lacks faith with his leadership and even members of the resistance already plans to betray him.

Gabranth's forces in a constant state of questioning who will stay loyal and who will not.

At the end of this road all we can do is try to "Save the Queen" from the betrayal of others and herself.

Originally Posted by Alleo

Yes its an easy way to keep Mikoto in danger and thus having us following what the other said. Instead there was imo no reason why we did anything other than kicking the traitors ass, especially since we had the numbers to back us up. (One could have easily gone an protected our friend while the rest went to fight)

It is sadly not that simple in their current position.

They are short on soldiers due to being a small resistance group thus can't aford thinning their ranks right now. Also they are still loyal to the resistance until the war is over so Bajsaljen still need them to act as soldiers and they may not be lone in their plans to betray Bajsaljen once the war is over so waiting a bit longer to identify those who are with these three planned traitors is ideal.

No doubt Bajsaljen is already aware of their betrayal plans for a while as leadership goes with more than just loyal people but also those who only seek to use him for their own benefit only but due to how things are they can't risk putting in distrust among their own ranks in the middle of a war zone.

Reinforcements from Dalmasca Resistance are arriving soon but they just had a major loss due to the tempering of their Blades as well which each one are basically Commander Rank in the resistance due to their combat skills and leadership abilities

Finally manage to beat Castrum and so here is my thoughts on Episode 2 of Save the Queen Storyline...

I feel as if we will not be defeating Gabranth this expansion.

This entire battle of Bozja is just one big distraction while Gabranth deals with something else far from this battle zone. The entire purpose of even having this "primal" placed into this Castrum is to help delay any progress to claim the Castrum as they have neither intention nor expectations to keep it under their control. They're just doing what they can to stall for time so the Bozja resistance won't make progress into Bozja and have foothold to finally setup a assault into Garlean territory anytime soon.

Even if we claim the location finally in Map 3, the current story hints that the story for Gabranth may not be finished until 6.X era storyline. If so i am assuming Save the Queen storyline may not be required to access but will still help better understand how X and Y character ended up in the 6.X Gabranth storyline along with extra dialogue options exclusive to players who played and completed 5.X Save the Queen Storyline.

Originally Posted by Tracewood

I've lost count, but this is our third Legion themed story arc now? We have Werlyt, Bozja, Zenos/Fandaniel. I wonder what they have planned going into 6.0? Going by the preview for 5.4 we visit Ishgard again, but that could be a red herring.

Well as of now the Garlean Empire is basically almost gone due to internal conflict for the right to rule, Legions are now splitting up into their own factions, Zeno's mindless slaughter of any resistance to the throne, and Civil War has engulfed most of Garlemald for areas around the Capital between Legions who do not acknowledge Zeno's rule. Even with Zeno control over the Capital, many other Legions are just trying to claim territory now and ignoring Zeno's new role as Emperor.

At this point all these side stories involving the Garlean Empire's Legions are more about finishing off the only remaining Garlean forces in the way of getting into Garlemald now. With Bozjan claimed by Map 3 of Save the Queen Storyline, they will finally have a Eastern side front to enter Garlemald with Doma and Resistance forces while on the Western side we have the Eorzea Alliance after they deal with the Weapons.

We can basically say the Legions are mostly Warlords at this point trying to claim their own territory and rights to rule over them.

IVth Imperial Legion follows Gabranth in the Eastern side of the push into Garlemald.

VIIIth Imperial Legion follows Valens van Varro in the Western side of the push into Garlemald.

Zenos has claimed the Captial but his progress will be shown through the MSQ in 5.4 to 5.55.

We can assume by 6.0 both Eastern and Western fronts will be taken no matter what regardless of the WoL participation in them or not due to how important both sides is required to claim their locations if they wish to finally attack the Garlean Empire at the heart of their Capital.

However, story wise I can only assume casualities may be reduced if WoL did take part in those efforts compared to WoL not being their causing them to sacrifice more soldiers since they don't have the Echo.

@EdwinLi:

My point was not with these NPCs that you can overhear but with her itself in the castrum. She is alone, we are quite a few. It makes no sense to me why we cant overwhelm her. And with not doing anything we just have lost very valuable soldiers. Soldiers that now will be used to kill their comrades.

Originally Posted by Alleo

@EdwinLi:

My point was not with these NPCs that you can overhear but with her itself in the castrum. She is alone, we are quite a few. It makes no sense to me why we cant overwhelm her. And with not doing anything we just have lost very valuable soldiers. Soldiers that now will be used to kill their comrades.

This was a hostage situation. You don't risk the life of the hostage unless you are 100% certain you can save the hostage and capture or kill the hostage taker especially when the hostage taker has a weapon at the throat of the hostage where they can instantly kill the hostage within seconds before anyone can act or give the hostage taker reason to kill the hostage.

The goal is to save the hostage and not get the hostage killed.

They could have charged Misjia but then Mikoto would have been killed before they can get to Misjia. Also, if you want to mention the dive into the memory shard moment, they mentioned disrupting even one of them will greatly harm the others that joined the person mentally due to the process of how that memory jump works.

Yes Misjia would have been killed or captured but at the cost of Mikoto's life which goes against their objective being to save Mikoto.