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    Terin's Avatar
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    Jared Kane
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    Dark Knight Lv 90

    What would you guys think about getting more Dynamic, "Combo" abilities?

    Even though it's super confusing at first, I honestly kind of love the dynamic "Combo" abilities you get in PvP, and when playing other characters in the MSQ.

    As someone who plays FFXIV exclusively with a controller, the idea of being able to bind upwards of 3 abilities to a single button sounds like a *godsend*. It would clear up SO much real estate, I would be completely ecstatic!

    Now admittedly, I also wouldn't mind maybe improving the visuals a little bit.

    Maybe when you have a combo assigned to a hotbar, you can see the numbers "1-2-3" at the top of the ability, each number in its own little circle (or just "1-2" for combos with fewer skills).

    At the start, "1" is a white circle, and "2-3" are in black circles. Then when the second skill is ready, "2" is in a white circle and "1- -3" are in black circles.

    Not that it's absolutely necessary -- in fact, I don't imagine it makes any different at all -- but I just personally kind of like knowing "where I am" in terms of a combo!

    Honestly, I would *ADORE* an addition like that. Especially on my DRK; between his core rotation, and his AoE 2-button combo, that's 5 freaking buttons I have to have bound. Imagine condensing that to only 2!!!

    Obviously, it wouldn't work for every class (Red Mage comes to mind), but for those it would... well, why not?

    Who knows, might make certain classes a little more inviting to play. The Lancer/Dragoon springs to mind.
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    Astrella Riverstar
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    Reaper Lv 90
    This would dumb things down too much, it's not exactly all the difficult as it is.
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    Jared Kane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Listrella View Post
    This would dumb things down too much, it's not exactly all the difficult as it is.
    I don't think it dumbs things down. It just adds a layer of convenience, particularly for controller users, that instead of pushing "1>2>3", I can push "1>1>1". It's the same function either way, it just means I can fit more abilities on my bar so I don't get caught changing hot-bars mid-combat quite so often.

    It's not as though there any "choice" in these combos. That's why I mention the Red Made specifically; that's also a very "combo-driven" job, but there's a lot more choice that goes into which spell you're going to cast next. There's some level of thought there. That isn't necessarily true of the DRK, or I maybe even the SAM (oh man, I would *LOVE* playing the SAM if his three standard combos just took up three buttons; right now, it takes up EIGHT!).
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    Kyssa Shay
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    Reaper Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    I don't think it dumbs things down. It just adds a layer of convenience
    That's what leads to "dumbing things down".

    Gonna get a "No" vote from me.
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    That's what leads to "dumbing things down".

    Gonna get a "No" vote from me.
    A lot of people want combos consolidating so we can have more abilities, not less.

    Turning 6 buttons into 3 creates space for 3 more skills. Skills that might require a modicum of thought.
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I don't think it particularly "dumbs down" the game where you don't have to press 1 2 3, but instead can just press 1 several times...

    And it would indeed allow for more open slots on the action bars, although like I said, It'd be like 2 or 3 buttons for most classes...
    But, MNK you can easily free up a total of 6 buttons, DRG could free up 8, and SAM that was brought up could 6 if you consolidate their 3 regular weaponskill combos and their 2 aoe combos...

    And on the topic of opening up spots on action bars, it's always a mild worry around every expansion release how they'll manage to fit in all the new skills. With consolidating the combos to a single button, they would have less of that for the next expansion...
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Listrella View Post
    This would dumb things down too much, it's not exactly all the difficult as it is.
    1234 is not harder than 1111, it just eats 3 more keybinds for literally no reason. They really should make it an option for us to bind combos and mutually exclusive skills into a single button if we want to.

    Fewer keybinds, same number of button presses.
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    We have this in GNBs Continuation, and to an extent, DNCs Dance steps.

    As a specific mechanic it's fine, but not as the main combo, or all you're doing most of the fight is hammering a single button.
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    Jin Wa
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 90
    You can used addon for that if you want. Makes them work similar to PvP abilities
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    Elan Centauri
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I think things are fine as is, though some jobs suffer more from ability bloat than others.
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