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    bundythenoob's Avatar
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    Allie Millfleurx
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealQuah View Post
    Now Yodhi P has said there will be no more tank changes in the 5.x series, can we get rid of these pointless threads?
    is wanting positive changes to come to a job that has needed these changes since the expansion released pointless?
    is wanting quality of life changes that bring a bit of balance for the playerbase of a job pointless?
    is DRK the perfect job with absolutely no problems in both its playstyle identity and its overall performance across levels 1-79, not just lv 80?
    is it wrong for people to criticise changes that they feel have stripped away both the decision making aspect and resource building and spending of the resource generation tank?

    I don't really think so. in fact, I think these things are worth fighting for. I think that DRK is in a state of total imbalance across its leveling kit in comparison to the other tanks leveling kits, and I think that DRK is in a state of unique gameplay loss, which is also hurting WAR's gameplay identity. and I'm sure I'm not alone in these feelings.

    If you don't agree, that's fine. but why try to stop others from fighting for what they believe is a healthy change to one of the most popular jobs in the game?
    why try to stop others from fighting for what should be a better designed job, seeing as how its being toted around as the poster boy for the expansion?
    why try to stop others from fighting for changes that would only be healthy for the life and longevity of both DRK and the game itself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealQuah View Post
    Now Yodhi P has said there will be no more tank changes in the 5.x series, can we get rid of these pointless threads?
    Source of this information? Because I don't believe you.
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    Making things brain dead doesn't solve problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    What's the source on this?
    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    Source of this information? Because I don't believe you.
    it was some interview around the time of the live reading of the patch notes or the prelim notes.
    He said more accurately that, at least for tanks, he feels like they're done with potency adjustments. That's all, but I've made a similar remark that yeah, potencies are good and done, and I myself doubt that there'll be anything else to come for tanks.

    It was in the GNB SFX thread where I said this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    it was some interview around the time of the live reading of the patch notes or the prelim notes.
    He said more accurately that, at least for tanks, he feels like they're done with potency adjustments. That's all, but I've made a similar remark that yeah, potencies are good and done, and I myself doubt that there'll be anything else to come for tanks.

    It was in the GNB SFX thread where I said this.
    If that was before 5.3 then honestly then Yoshi-P should have known better how bad Dark Knight is with its self sustain(or lack-thereof) as well as how bad its MP costs and long recast timers and how bad Blood Weapon is and he needs to tell the other devs to rework Dark Knight into something that doesn't suck in terms of a DPS rotation as well as self sustain and has better cooldowns outside of "ThE bLaCkEsT nIgHt Is ThE bEsT cOoLdOwN HERPA-DERP!" because The Blackest Night sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArianeEwah View Post
    Making things brain dead doesn't solve problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    it was some interview around the time of the live reading of the patch notes or the prelim notes.
    He said more accurately that, at least for tanks, he feels like they're done with potency adjustments. That's all, but I've made a similar remark that yeah, potencies are good and done, and I myself doubt that there'll be anything else to come for tanks.

    It was in the GNB SFX thread where I said this.
    No one cares about potency adjustments though. I thought this thread was about Dark QOL changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyneSwordz View Post
    No one cares about potency adjustments though. I thought this thread was about Dark QOL changes.
    well this thread's proposed changes might lead to potency adjustments due to the fact that DRK would be generating more resource with a lower cooldown CnS, 2 abyssal charges, an extra quietus/bloodspiller every 90 secs from Salted, and Stalwart being moved to lv 40, but the DPS gain wouldn't be too bad, seeing as how DRK is the lowest in terms of DPS atm. i think that DRK could, and SHOULD, have had these changes since at least 5.2, seeing as how its been in a state of total chaos for the last year, but I think that may stem from something bigger..

    The lack of a dedicated Tank (and healer) developer. atm there are only 4 battle system devs, and those devs have openly stated that they prefer to play DPS and don't like playing tanks or healers. why hasn't square hired at least one dev for each of the 2 roles? I think that is the biggest problem that's plaguing both tank and healer design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    If that was before 5.3 then honestly then Yoshi-P should have known better how bad Dark Knight is with its self sustain(or lack-thereof) as well as how bad its MP costs and long recast timers and how bad Blood Weapon is and he needs to tell the other devs to rework Dark Knight into something that doesn't suck in terms of a DPS rotation as well as self sustain and has better cooldowns outside of "ThE bLaCkEsT nIgHt Is ThE bEsT cOoLdOwN HERPA-DERP!" because The Blackest Night sucks.
    That's my hope as well. I'd love to see DRK get something, and GNB's sounds reverted for their basic combo to what they were on 5.0 launch.

    But, track record is not on our side.

    Quote Originally Posted by NyneSwordz View Post
    No one cares about potency adjustments though. I thought this thread was about Dark QOL changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealQuah View Post
    Now Yodhi P has said there will be no more tank changes in the 5.x series, can we get rid of these pointless threads?
    Yoshi P can say whatever he wants, but that won't stop anyone from requesting for balances changes.
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    What's the source on this?
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