Thread: DRK QOL changes for 5.4

Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea

You want an article? You want an insider's leak? You want Yoshi P next to a fireplace in a Cosby sweater telling you?

Yeah no, none of that exists.

What exists is this version of DRK we have now, compared to what is certainly alien in design from two previous expansions. That is the proof: a poor man's version of WAR with a shield and a leveling scheme that doesn't make much sense.

SE couldn't have just decided to make a WAR clone on their own. The community had their hand in making DRK as it is today based on the feedback provided and the conversations that were had. The community has blame for the DRK we deserve.

In other word you just blowing and air with nothing to back you up.

Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea

I like how you need proof when there's a chance you and your actions, current and historical, gave us the DRK we have right now.

Meanwhile, you have no problem blowing hot air when it comes to WAR adjustments. You state motives about SE with no proof.

"There's chance"

Is that the best you can come with? Try not to be ambiguous.

Also I state SE motives based on the evidence and their action which I can bring to show here if needed. If SE wish to say otherwise they're welcome to explain.

Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea

So, you have proof, in written words from SE on why they made DRK the way they did this expansion?

I have proof Yoshida intentionally kept Living & Walking Dead this way despite knowing DRK community don't want too.

Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea

Nice ninja edit.

Maybe you should walk away from the keyboard for a few hours and come back when you are calmer. Long enough for you to collect your thoughts and reflect.

As for "attacking", that is incorrect. I didn't state attacking: I stated "comparing" and "complaining." Attacking is not the same thing as either of those.

As for the "WAR always compare" etc., this literal tribalism speaking. This is "us versus them." Being competitive with the other three tanks is not the same as what you are believing within your own head cannon. WAR mains are not oppressing DRKs nor holding DRKs back, your own attitude is.

Your actions, your language, your demeanor, and your accusations makes me want to just not even bother with trying to have open discussions on trying to fix a job I don't main. Myself and other tanks are empathetic to the shortcomings of DRK in its current state. Unfortunately, the attitude that you bring to the discussion (like this one you brought to a discussion about the DRK leveling scheme) makes myself and others not want to bother.

That is why stated what I wrote. You have to sit back and think how much of this damage is self inflicted. Do I have blame? Yes I do. I accept my part in what made DRK it is the way it is currently.

If you have issue with me changing

"IT IS WAR THAT ALWAYS COMPARE THEMSELVES WITH OTHER TANK AND MAKE COMMOTION WHEN IT DOESN'T MAKE WAR SUPERIOR AND THEY AREN'T WHERE THEY BELONG TO AKA TOP TANK."

to


"WAR have a habit to go to the next neighbourhood and make sure they're the top."

in 5 mins

Then go ahead and cry.







"WAR mains are not oppressing DRKs nor holding DRKs back, your own attitude is."

Then wth is this?

Originally Posted by Launched

DRK really doesn't need any kind of defensive buff.

Originally Posted by Launched

Because it's a good skill.

Originally Posted by Hierro

Because it's fine.

Originally Posted by Lucy_Pyre

"We really need to talk about Living Dead"

Do we? No, no I don't think we do, actually. It's worse than the other invuln abilities in some situations, it's better than the others in some other situations. With coordinated play (and admittedly having a WHM) LD turns into the single best tank invuln due to the fact that it combines Hallowed Ground's length with (nearly) Holmgang's cooldown. Does it function poorly as an "Oh shit, the healer can't keep me up" button in dungeon pulls with randoms? Sure. But then again, Holmgang is subpar in that same situation. I think it's poor form to judge a cooldown based around poor play and execution on the players' part; especially when, when proper play and usage, LD is extremely powerful. The only invuln that I would put as superior to it when used properly is Holmgang simply due to the fact that Holmgang has 60 seconds less on its cooldown.

Originally Posted by Ftail

I don't think we really need to talk about Living Dead...

If you are with a group and don't have a WHM you can just do what one of my groups did and just lock out DRK from joining the group. You get to create your own groups in this game and nothing is forcing you to take a DRK with you if you know they are going to have a mechanic where they need to use invuln to survive. Last time I locked out a DRK was for Titania EX when that was still new. We opened it back up when a WHM joined and preferred DRK's when we had a bene to use with it, it's really amazing if used correctly.

Originally Posted by Miminming

Just say it, you want your main to be the best at everything, everyone does.

DRK already is the most OP MT atm, no need more buff.

Originally Posted by Miminming

No, even now DRK is the MT tank of choice,
People who want LD to change is just the DRK elitist that want more some probably just want a panic button which shouldn't be even a thing if played right... and less good healer or just want to get it easy healer... LD being a 20s invul has it uses and nich, it' perfectly fine as is.