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    About needing to do The Light of Hope for A Time to Every Purpose

    Sorry but, having to do the ENTIRE Crystal Tower quest chain before I continue story through 2.55 is idiotic.

    I just wanted to get my MCH and level it as soon as possible. I want to do a raid because I want, not because I HAVE TO.

    I don't know if it's relevant to Shadowbringers or not, but before this requirement didn't exist. C'mon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khold View Post
    Sorry but, having to do the ENTIRE Crystal Tower quest chain before I continue story through 2.55 is idiotic.

    I just wanted to get my MCH and level it as soon as possible. I want to do a raid because I want, not because I HAVE TO.

    I don't know if it's relevant to Shadowbringers or not, but before this requirement didn't exist. C'mon...
    They had announcements, it was on the lodestone and in the launcher now for a week.

    It is 100% story relevant.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 08-12-2020 at 09:41 AM.

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    can you skip it with

    Can you skip it with Tales of Adventure: Stormblood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazmyn View Post
    Can you skip it with Tales of Adventure: Stormblood
    Probably not since the Crystal Tower quest is still separate from the MSQ. If I remember correctly, players who used the ARR skip still had to do Ifrit and Garuda Hard to unlock Titan Hard for post-HW MSQ. I imagine this will be the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Probably not since the Crystal Tower quest is still separate from the MSQ. If I remember correctly, players who used the ARR skip still had to do Ifrit and Garuda Hard to unlock Titan Hard for post-HW MSQ. I imagine this will be the same thing.
    I bought an ARR story skip a while back and I think the three hard mode trials were all unlocked but not marked complete, though the unlock quests were, so I might have had to clear them before I could pick up the Extreme versions. There was some kind of oddity like that, anyway.

    The skip unlocked Lv50 dungeons but not raids - which in my case was good since I'd skipped ARR specifically to replay CT before Shadowbringers.

    Maybe they'll change that now, but you'll have to wait and see. Or you can just consider it MSQ and get on with it like any other quest that needs doing.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 08-13-2020 at 09:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They had announcements, it was on the lodestone and in the launcher now for a week.

    It is 100% story relevant.
    What about players who don't care about the story?
    Mandatory MSQ is standard progression structure for MMOs, so I don't have a problem with it here.

    Forcing players through a entire raid questling however, is not.
    What's the point of streamlining ARR if more work is going to be required in the end?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquilmelody7 View Post
    What about players who don't care about the story?
    Mandatory MSQ is standard progression structure for MMOs, so I don't have a problem with it here.

    Forcing players through a entire raid questling however, is not.
    What's the point of streamlining ARR if more work is going to be required in the end?
    But it is for FFXIV, it always was that way, unlock stuff with story, that is what differs FFXIV from other MMO's, not want such then people should not play FFXIV simply, this is and always was a more story focused game, you can't blame a game for such sicne it clearly showed such in every aspect.

    If you not want story then this is the wrong game for you, it is like you play a sports game and complain there is no strategy part or so, you can't maek every game the same, why else play something different?
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    What about those of us that care nothing for Raiding did enough of it in wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazmyn View Post
    What about those of us that care nothing for Raiding did enough of it in wow
    The whole thing will take you an hour... max. Suck it up and just do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazmyn View Post
    What about those of us that care nothing for Raiding did enough of it in wow
    I admit I'm not entirely clear on what raiding in WoW entails, but coming to this game with no other MMO experience (I mostly play RPGs and such), the Crystal Tower raids just feel like big dungeons. There are a few instant-death mechanics that will inevitably catch out newcomers, but most of the fights have been trivialised by the increases to ilevel since they were introduced.

    In any case the core importance of getting you to do the raids isn't the raids themselves, it's the storyline that you can't see through to completion without getting through those raids along the way.
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