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  1. #11
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    Videra's Avatar
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    Videra Svenay
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 83
    Here lies Warrior's last brain cell.
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  2. #12
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    You mean that you were left... in the dark?

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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  3. #13
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    DRK has always been the lowest priority job for SE so thats not new, im personally not surprised for the lack of ajustments.

    all being said i no longer able to argue that WAR is more complex that DRK, now are equally braindead to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    Did you get kicked out of savage groups and statics because you play DRK?
    NO! Because the tanks are still balanced and you can play any tank you want.
    These 2 just got QoL changes and the WAR should get a bit closer to DRK and PLD dmg.
    WAR was already equaly/superior to DRK dps since the start of the expansion, this changes will just put it 100% ahead of DRK and make it really close to PLD if not equal, and many jobs recived in the past Gameplay changes despite still being balanced just bcs are requested for make the experience more fun, idk why this should be a exception for DRK, but we all know DRK is not allowed to get mid expansion changes like the rest.
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  4. #14
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    Combo Lammas
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    Omega
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    DRK is not allowed to get mid expansion changes like the rest.
    DRK did get mid expansion changes in Stormblood though.

    That being said I keep being equally as amused as I'm disappointed at every patch by the devs just not giving in on Living Dead being utter crap and removing the healing requirement on it.
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  5. #15
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    Sqwall Lionheart
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    Diabolos
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
    It seems SE is listening to input.

    These WAR adjustments were requested since the start of this expansion here on the forums, in other social media, and within the games. These requests are basic and were mostly uniformly agreed upon.

    If you want changes to DRK: those changes need to be basic/simple changes and uniformly agreed upon.

    Go back and look at the threads within these forums alone. How many simple, requests were there and how many of those simple requests were widely approved upon? How about next to none.

    Most DRK change requests and ideas within these forums were full revamps or major code change requests. It's obvious SE right now isn't going for full code changes. They will do simple changes. Changing a variable from 15 to 30 and 30 to 60 isn't difficult. Setting NF's target requirement to "FALSE" isn't difficult either.

    Of course, the community beyond the three or four same people who post on these forums requesting DRK changes and pining for StB/HW need to get on board. To me, it seems like the community "forgot" about DRK and not SE.
    Personally this is why I was turned off to warrior. It felt very tight to finish an optimal rotation, but it is doable. The extra time for storms eye is a nice deep breath, and allows me to focus more on storms path for more cleaves. This is a damage increase imo, and a good one for war as I do like the class. Just didn't feel right to play, and also the non-requirements for NF. Which I think we all knew was kind of stupidly designed. Just took awhile for others to except it I think. Now that I can test incoming healing on a target dummy this is good information to know when working on DPS rotations, while also allowing me to use it more in line with infuriates and cleaves more often. NF will be important more so in single target tanking, then being highly important in AOE burst self heals. This makes warrior perfect IMO, combat flow will be very smooth and the normal warrior heavy metalness.
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  6. #16
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Character
    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Isn't it uniformly agreed upon that DRK needs more self-healing and a fix to Walking Dead so it's easier to come back from?
    Yes but there isn't a unified "here's how." There's several ideas, and all of them have their merits, but that's the problem.

    WARs: Fix Nascent!
    SE: How?
    WARs: NO TARGET TO USE PLEASE.
    SE: There done.

    DRKs: FIX US!
    SE: How?
    DRKs: (several posts and topics and comments all bringing their own ideas)
    SE: *shrugs* figure it out first.
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  7. #17
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    DRKs: FIX US!
    SE: How?
    DRKs: (several posts and topics and comments all bringing their own ideas)
    SE: *shrugs* figure it out first.
    That explains so much with healers.
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  8. #18
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lammas View Post
    DRK did get mid expansion changes in Stormblood though.

    That being said I keep being equally as amused as I'm disappointed at every patch by the devs just not giving in on Living Dead being utter crap and removing the healing requirement on it.
    I wanted to mean Gameplay changes to improve the experience of the job, kinda like how SAM get changed to use Shoha or other skills/mechanics get revamped to improve the job, yeah buffs and number tweaks like everyone, but gameplay stuff? never, only sole survivor and no more and was really minor.
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  9. #19
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    Chryden Speakel
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    Odin
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    WAR was already equaly/superior to DRK dps since the start of the expansion, this changes will just put it 100% ahead of DRK and make it really close to PLD if not equal, and many jobs recived in the past Gameplay changes despite still being balanced just bcs are requested for make the experience more fun, idk why this should be a exception for DRK, but we all know DRK is not allowed to get mid expansion changes like the rest.
    It has been a while since I last checked.
    IF I now look on Shiva kills/ ranking then I see that WAR is by far the most unpopular class.
    The median dmg is close to DRK but he still the lowest.

    This unpopularity has to come from somewhere and is eventually fixed with this patch.
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  10. #20
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    It has been a while since I last checked.
    IF I now look on Shiva kills/ ranking then I see that WAR is by far the most unpopular class.
    The median dmg is close to DRK but he still the lowest.

    This unpopularity has to come from somewhere and is eventually fixed with this patch.
    Gameplay mostly, WAR dps output is fine, his defensive kit is still of the best and his utility remains one of the best in terms of optimization and such, WAR unpopularity came mostly from the lack of additions with the expansion and a infinite storm of complains about nascent flash wich is "fixed" now, onslaught and how unpleasant was to run a dungeon and keep storm eye, well see who all this QoL end raising his popularity but we have to keep in mind DRK becoming WAR but with a sword and edginess have something to do with his pick rate too considering the marketing and the expansion theme.
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