While it isn't my place to say about GNB, I feel that instead of Holmgang equivalent GNB can use Hallow Ground equivalent. Like 8 secs Hallow Ground or something.I find it odd that WARs didnt get Thrill of Battle updated to be their on demand CD instead of Raw Intuition. (Also to help bring their original flavor of higher HP back)
Back on point, people forget DRKs LD was nerfed, DRKs lost the ability to increase a healers healing amount by 20%, which means DRKs only needed 80% of their max HP healed. Now its 100%.
Convalescence
And even then, ppl still complained when it was an 80%.
IMO either DRK needs a more effective self healing thats not used up from keeping DPS maintained (like equilibrium/thrill/N.flash/Aurora), lowered healing threshold requirement (like needing only 50/60/70/80% of max HP healed), or passive healing potency from others. (Such as +10/20/30/40/50% healed for more.) The rest of the ability can still function the same way.
(In reality, the HP sacrificing invuln should have been given to DRK, this way the temp HP shield works well in conjunction, due to server tick. WAR should have gotten the LD equivalent, which their self healing works well with. And GNB should have then been passed the Holmgang equivalent)
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In practice, if you don't have Bene up, there's probably going to be some degree of frantic hardcast GCD spam involved, as unglamorous as it sounds. When you have 10 seconds on the clock and no direct gauge of the amount of remaining healing required to cleanse the effect, it's rarely an exact science.



that's usually the part where you say oh bene is on cooldown, okay oGCDs then spam a couple GCDs to full hp, then you know.In practice, if you don't have Bene up, there's probably going to be some degree of frantic hardcast GCD spam involved, as unglamorous as it sounds. When you have 10 seconds on the clock and no direct gauge of the amount of remaining healing required to cleanse the effect, it's rarely an exact science.
I just really want a Living Dead rework.
The move was always bad, but it's a flat out unacceptable state in SHB.
TBN being my favorite CD in the game doesn't make up for how utterly awful Living Dead is.
Everything else I could wait on, but 2 charges for Abyssal Drain and 12 second blood weapon would be nice.

The biggest change above was the nascent flash party restriction removal - which isn't even a buff. As for the Storm's Eye buff, is doesn't even break balance. These are just MOSTLY qol changes that doesn't hurt your precious Dark in anyway. These threads complaining about qol changes that some players have waited over a year for because they didn't get the changes you want come off pretty bad to say the least. If you want something, just make a thread for it. Why start beef with other players?5.3 complete patch note. No DRK adjustment ONLY WAR and a little of GNB.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...5c2da260eae21a
You're doing nothing but buff WAR since shadowbringers release. You might as well take The Blackest Night and give it to other job and delete my job from the game Mr.Yoshida!
I already reported the thread and I hope it gets locked.
I think there is another thread for proposed Dark changes. Go post something constructive there.



I hope you're not serious.
Unlike JP forums which do keep topics to singular-ish threads of the same topic, NA would rather have more and more posts addressing the issue, hoping that "more threads is more people wanting more," or something idk.
but actively hoping a dialogue gets silenced because you dont like it? Yes OPs combative tone aint helping their case but that aint to say meaningful things weren't said here.
Instead of trying to silence posts like these either add something meaningful or ignore them. Because while you've waited "over a year" for QoL changes for WAR, GNB's have been waiting as long for the SFX to be reverted from 5.01. DRK's have been waiting since god knows when for the dev team to listen to complaints from the players. 5.0 hasn't stopped those, and as time goes on it just further demonstrates a seeming bias against DRK feedback.

Yeah and what has that got to do with Wars is what I'm asking? No one is trying to silence anybody. Anywho. Peace.I hope you're not serious.
Unlike JP forums which do keep topics to singular-ish threads of the same topic, NA would rather have more and more posts addressing the issue, hoping that "more threads is more people wanting more," or something idk.
but actively hoping a dialogue gets silenced because you dont like it? Yes OPs combative tone aint helping their case but that aint to say meaningful things weren't said here.
Instead of trying to silence posts like these either add something meaningful or ignore them. Because while you've waited "over a year" for QoL changes for WAR, GNB's have been waiting as long for the SFX to be reverted from 5.01. DRK's have been waiting since god knows when for the dev team to listen to complaints from the players. 5.0 hasn't stopped those, and as time goes on it just further demonstrates a seeming bias against DRK feedback.

No one has a bias against Dark feedback. There's an annoyance about Dark's dragging Wars into a thread whenever they don't get what they want. Why not just keep it constructive and post what you want instead of starting drama. That's all I'm saying. Keep the forums clean and be constructive. Pretty sure people have been banned for starting drama in the past. I'm not sure if SE is still enforcing it as strictly nowadays though.
QQ about your lack of updates. That's fine. But it's pretty petty to drag other people into a fight because you're unhappy. But you're right of course. I won't be responding to these threads anymore looking to bait a response. I unsubbed for nearly a year because War gameplay was clunky imo. I should just go enjoy the game now that I finally got most of the changes I wanted after more than a year.


I don’t think it’s unreasonable for SE to get an ear full about a lack of updates to a given class when another class in that role gets updates... they should expect this - this is a paid service. When one class gets updates (and I’m not saying WAR shouldn’t have had these qol adjustments) it’s only natural for mains of a different job in the same role to say “what about my completely reasonable job adjustment that has been overlooked?”... like blood weapon acting like all the other 10 sec abilities... or the LD sucking for years...No one has a bias against Dark feedback. There's an annoyance about Dark's dragging Wars into a thread whenever they don't get what they want. Why not just keep it constructive and post what you want instead of starting drama. That's all I'm saying. Keep the forums clean and be constructive. Pretty sure people have been banned for starting drama in the past. I'm not sure if SE is still enforcing it as strictly nowadays though.
QQ about your lack of updates. That's fine. But it's pretty petty to drag other people into a fight because you're unhappy. But you're right of course. I won't be responding to these threads anymore looking to bait a response. I unsubbed for nearly a year because War gameplay was clunky imo. I should just go enjoy the game now that I finally got most of the changes I wanted after more than a year.
Where are these posts when those that aren’t even tank mains come to the defense of LD just to troll??! - it’s indefensible btw. I’m an Omni tank, main DRK, and I rarely can be bothered to post in non-DRK threads... maybe I don’t see it bcs I don’t often read other exclusive gnb, war, pld threads but it sure seems like wars tend to get exactly what they ask for within a reasonable time while DRKs have traditionally been overlooked when their are issues... it’s fairly obvious war is a favorite and it’s treated that way. I don’t want to tear down WARs... I want similar qol adjustments that are easy and seemingly have every reason to take care of like BW... or if SE would directly address the reason for not doing it I’d take that too.
Maybe we are going to end up talking past each other on this one but I take issue with conflating being argumentative for it’s own sake with being passionate about a job that seems to be abandoned for two years at a time...
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