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    Saix027's Avatar
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    Ashyra Leyran
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Bit disapointed how SCH once again got forgotten, less MP for its AoE Heal, nice but, i wish it would play more around, SCH has it the hardes on healing still, OCD Heals rely a lot on its aether stacks while WHM and AST have so many instant heals without conditions. I love paly SCH still but the class simply has to work far more to get the same effect then the other healers, it is a shame how it got butchered since the mass rework.
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    xxmiamorecadenza's Avatar
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    Miawkwa Fletcher
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    Golem
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I'm so excited for the Dwarf Tribe! They've always been one of my favorite aspects of The First.
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    Veis Alve'are
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Saix027 View Post
    Bit disapointed how SCH once again got forgotten, less MP for its AoE Heal, nice but, i wish it would play more around, SCH has it the hardes on healing still, OCD Heals rely a lot on its aether stacks while WHM and AST have so many instant heals without conditions. I love paly SCH still but the class simply has to work far more to get the same effect then the other healers, it is a shame how it got butchered since the mass rework.
    I mean, Emergency Tactics is on a 15sec CD and now Succor is more in line with the cost of Medica.

    I think it's in a good spot.

    So is AST now, thankfully! If anything I'd kinda worry we might have like... too much MP? I guess it depends on how well people were utilizing Lightspeed's 50% cut before. Either way, much hype for updated AST even if I may miss the chaos of that first sleeve draw.
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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It was the most complex tank, but everything flowed really well. Parrying had a chance to pull Reprisal off cooldown (meaning you could spam it practically if you were MT), crits had a chance to pull Low Blow off cooldown so you could spam it, a constant MP degen while Darkside was up so you had to balance doing damage with keeping your MP up, possible to always have cooldowns up and on rotation, an actual 2nd DPS combo (I miss HW Delirium), Abyssal Drain was spammable (if you had the MP for it), and a DoT. Just from that, you can tell what all was ripped from my poor boy.
    I miss HW DRK. What is miss most I think is Scourge, the DoT for those who don't know. I wish they'd give that back to us as an alternative combo finisher to use besides Soul Eater. I like the current version better than the SB version, but I miss the HW one, T.T

    Quote Originally Posted by Saix027 View Post
    Bit disapointed how SCH once again got forgotten, less MP for its AoE Heal, nice but, i wish it would play more around, SCH has it the hardes on healing still, OCD Heals rely a lot on its aether stacks while WHM and AST have so many instant heals without conditions. I love paly SCH still but the class simply has to work far more to get the same effect then the other healers, it is a shame how it got butchered since the mass rework.
    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    I mean, Emergency Tactics is on a 15sec CD and now Succor is more in line with the cost of Medica.

    I think it's in a good spot.
    It's not though. I'm not saying its in a bad spot, but it's still not where it once was. And I don't mean it being so overly strong compared to the other healers. The issue with SCH now is ironically the same issue it always has been the faerie, but reversed. I'll share what I was telling some FC mates.

    "In regards to SCH, their potencies do need a bit of a tweak. But I feel its more on the faerie side of things moreso. Maybe a flat buff to Physick like make it 450 or 500, but when they tried to adjust how the faerie fits into the kit they nerfed her a bit too much. Having that kind of adjustment was "fine" when SCH was the main healer that relied on oGCD heals. But since that's not a thing anymore, and WHM and AST not only have a plethora of oGCD heals, but ones that are instantaneous (no pet ai delay) and reliant on their own power, the faerie needs a fix."
    Basically, they nerfed the faerie when she was "too strong" and that made sense then. But they kept nerfing her and not really adjusting the other abilities SCH has access to. All the meanwhile giving WHM and AST additional oGCD heals. Physick is the only heal on the SCH side that I think could use a boost. But everything else is on the Faerie side. Her heals are too weak now to compensate for what SCH's lack in raw power. Not to mention she's been integrated into our kit more. Additionally, SCH not only has to deal with pet heals having a lower output, but a delay as well. The other healers don't have to worry about that.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 08-11-2020 at 08:56 AM.
    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.