5.3 COMPLETE patch notes

**tdb** · 08-10-2020 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by Pells

So no more doubling up on tomestone rings with one augmented and the other not.

Since they explicitly mention poetics, I guess that only applies to old gear which you won't be using for long anyway.

**Fourbestintoner** · 08-10-2020 11:49 PM

Absolutely retarded ast changes, as expected, enjoy your randomly thrown useless divinations now I guess.

**Ilenya** · 08-10-2020 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

Absolutely retarded ast changes, as expected, enjoy your randomly thrown useless divinations now I guess.

Okay, go into more details, please, because the only negative thing I've seen so far was specifically the fact that Sleeve Draw seems to be one card 180s cooldown.

**Gula** · 08-10-2020 11:59 PM

WHM remains untouched. Thank goodness. I'm always afraid there will be a nerf.

**Esmoire** · 08-11-2020 12:08 AM

As I stated elsewhere I hope the Nascent Flash change applies to PvP if not this patch and unlisted, in a future patch. It's kind of hard to always have a party member in Rival Wings.

All in all otherwise pleased.

**Veis_Alveare** · 08-11-2020 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by Ilenya

Okay, go into more details, please, because the only negative thing I've seen so far was specifically the fact that Sleeve Draw seems to be one card 180s cooldown.

So the idea with Divination is that you want it to align with raid buffs. To do that in your opener with Sleeve Draw only granting one card is impossible now. Raid buffs are up around 7-10 seconds into the fight, at that point you'll still be waiting for your Draw to come back up.

Basically if Sleeve Draw doesn't grant 3 cards then the earliest possible Divination is around 33 seconds in, significantly misaligned and costing the AST a ton of rDPS.

**Ilenya** · 08-11-2020 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare

Basically if Sleeve Draw doesn't grant 3 cards then the earliest possible Divination is around 33 seconds in, significantly misaligned and costing the AST a ton of rDPS.

Fair enough, thank you.

**Iscah** · 08-11-2020 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare

So the idea with Divination is that you want it to align with raid buffs. To do that in your opener with Sleeve Draw only granting one card is impossible now. Raid buffs are up around 7-10 seconds into the fight, at that point you'll still be waiting for your Draw to come back up.

Basically if Sleeve Draw doesn't grant 3 cards then the earliest possible Divination is around 33 seconds in, significantly misaligned and costing the AST a ton of rDPS.

You draw one card as you load in. When the battle starts you play that and immediately draw a second card, maybe redraw, play it. Now you have two seals. Sleeve Draw gives you a guaranteed third.

Are you working around other things you need to do first?

**Veis_Alveare** · 08-11-2020 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by Iscah

You draw one card as you load in. When the battle starts you play that and immediately draw a second card, maybe redraw, play it. Now you have two seals. Sleeve Draw gives you a guaranteed third.

Are you working around other things you need to do first?

I'm not, merely working on the assumption that outside of savage the mere thought of waiting 30 seconds to pull will never happen.

I agree it doesn't cripple AST in the high end (though not being able to layer lord/lady with div will be bad) but it will make playing it in DF content even more of a chore. No other job feels so extra bad without an opener, sleeve draw mitigated that enough for me to AST some casual stuff but no longer.

**Rilifane** · 08-11-2020 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare

I'm not, merely working on the assumption that outside of savage the mere thought of waiting 30 seconds to pull will never happen.

I agree it doesn't cripple AST in the high end (though not being able to layer lord/lady with div will be bad) but it will make playing it in DF content even more of a chore. No other job feels so extra bad without an opener, sleeve draw mitigated that enough for me to AST some casual stuff but no longer.

Outside of savage, raidbuffs are all over the place anyway so I doubt people care too much about how it affects any non-endgame content.
Even if a tank pulls right as the barriers drops, if you Draw right as you zone in, first Divination is a bit delayed but will most likely realign later unless everyone keeps everything perfectly on CD regardless of mechanics. Only few people do a proper raid opener in normal content because they either don't even know their opener or there's simply no time with a tank pulling any second. Even precasting on BLM or RdM is hit and miss.
For savage, it's a not an issue. Wether you wait 30s or 15s between pulls hardly makes a difference for 9min+ fights.

I certainly won't care about a slightly misaligned Divination in casual content. What I don't like, however, is the fact that they simplified something that only affected the skill ceiling while people not liking it or not wanting to go through the trouble of optimizing it never had to. Using Sleeve properly is incredibly low on the AST priority list, optimizing it an endgame content-only thing.
Balance discord was on fire the whole day because of it.
I just hope that SE changes it again to something that offers more than basically an additional Draw on 180s cooldown. That's about as underwhelming as Impro from DNC in a fight without downtime and really lackluster for the 70 capstone ability.
Outside opener Divination, you always had plenty of time to fish for seals so the guaranteed seal is nice for opener but unlikely to make a difference for subsequent Divinations.

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