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  1. #11
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Also Rewards! Would be cool if armor was at a relevant ilvl instead of glam but ill take what i can get. but more rewards are always nice
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  2. #12
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    Malevolence's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Character
    Villan Elle
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 70
    Biggest issue for me is targeting. I play on PS4 and have targeting set to 'cone' which in theory is supposed to target the closest enemy to me, but it never does. I have to continually cycle through enemies furthest from me to get to closer ones. By the time I do, the Ninja right on my six has finished killing me. Super frustrating. I think getting rid of 64 player maps would help (stick to 24), but really, they targeting function should be fixed to auto-target the closest enemy to you. Full stop.
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    Last edited by Malevolence; 08-20-2020 at 08:12 AM. Reason: Content.

  3. #13
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    Esmoire's Avatar
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    Gold Saucer
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    Character
    Mei Coincounter
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Malevolence View Post
    Biggest issue for me is targeting. I play on PS4 and have targeting set to 'cone' which in theory is supposed to target the closest enemy to me, but it never does. I have to continually cycle through enemies furthest from me to get to closer ones. By the time I do, the Ninja right on my six has finished killing me. Super frustrating. I think getting rid of 64 player maps would help (stick to 24), but really, they targeting function should be fixed to auto-target the closest enemy to you. Full stop.
    I think targeting might be one of those things FFXIV has to rebuild, from the ground up. It's so awful, compared to other tab target MMOs. It just needs some tightening and perhaps an algorithm that is better at doing what the player probably intended. Like, there is probably never a time the player wants to select the random player 35y away leaving the fight in the corner of their monitor compared to the melee bearing down their throat. Mouse & keyboard, gamepad, PS4 or PC, whatever setup, PvE or PvP, the targeting system of FFXIV just kind of feels awful.
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  4. #14
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    Waaltar's Avatar
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    Character
    Berenice Vegetables
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Malevolence View Post
    Biggest issue for me is targeting. I play on PS4 and have targeting set to 'cone' which in theory is supposed to target the closest enemy to me, but it never does. I have to continually cycle through enemies furthest from me to get to closer ones. By the time I do, the Ninja right on my six has finished killing me. Super frustrating. I think getting rid of 64 player maps would help (stick to 24), but really, they targeting function should be fixed to auto-target the closest enemy to you. Full stop.
    I wonder if you know about one of the targeting methods I use a lot as a controller player. Basically, you hit the y button to untarget anything then point your character at the target and hit the x button and you will get whatever you are approximately pointed at. It works pretty good for close up players and actually as a Black Mage the problem with it is that I often target the one tank heading for my main group instead of the enemy group. It works much better for me on Gunbreaker.

    I agree though that targeting is tough and a big part of high dmg total etc. Maybe especially so on a controller, but there are plenty of awesome controller players too. I suspect all the best players are doing something similar to each other related to the control scheme that I don't know about, and targeting is probably a part of it, like some targeting macros or maybe a particular controller setting or something. I feel like I've plateaued as a Black Mage and I would have to fight all match long and not die to get 200-400k damage and I saw some BLM with like 1.5 million damage a few matches ago and while a little inspiring it is also a little discouraging.
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  5. #15
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    Commander_Justitia's Avatar
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    Character
    Ash Primordial
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    You can make macros for targeting (direct targeting of role, last person targeted, closest person target, focustarget target, target of target/assist, targeting PC with specific name etc.), you can circle through enemies fast and change if its by depth or cone method, camera adjustment to the enemy you want to target helps too. I feel like it is not much different to other mmo and not thaat big issue.

    Feast needs new maps badly(we already have 4 and only can play 1 since years) and suitable more skills for it, start by making optional additionals -> basic skills and replace that variety/picking skills part with your trait menu from 2.x -3.x times on job skills. Change potions into recuperate for all(its animation is faster and doesnt clip gcd like potions) and make it heal a set HP value like 6k but only make it useable every 45s or 1min. Having to spam potions during a burst is the worst feeling ever, you cant optimally wait out the burst either to snapshot the low HP threshold for the max potency condition of the potion.
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  6. #16
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Character
    Tani Shirai
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Why? Probably because you feel like a bunch of cylinders moving about while trying to drain other cylinders' primary metric rather than characters actually making any sort of contact with each other, all through a separate and vastly watered down battle system.
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  7. #17
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    Khalithar's Avatar
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    Character
    Khalith Mateo
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    This is a very personalized question and no answer will be the same and many of them will probably contradict each other. For me it’s the lack of rewards that I find personally compelling. The Garo event is what got me in to pvp, I love that series and got every single item and achievement possible from it. After that I took the time to get the 200 feast win mount because I thought it was really cool. Then I wanted the frontline/shatter mounts and got those also. Now there’s nothing I personally want, if they release something I want I’ll go for it again.

    The other reason I don’t find pvp fun (and this will be an unpopular opinion) is that I think healers are too strong. This is an issue I’ve had in many MMO’s and I’ve never felt that any have gotten the balance right. The closest this game had it (in my opinion) was when the sch and Drk debuffs stacked with each other. I know it didn’t have counterplay (which is why I say it wasn’t perfect) but it also made just straight up killing someone without the need for CC/stuns/silences viable which it absolutely should be.
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  8. #18
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    Nanne's Avatar
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    Character
    Piush Stumbleine
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    but it also made just straight up killing someone without the need for CC/stuns/silences viable which it absolutely should be.
    So why would anyone play healer when anybody could kill you like its nothing?
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  9. #19
    Player
    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    So why would anyone play healer when anybody could kill you like its nothing?
    Wouldn't that denote a lack of ability to peel, or available depth to team tactics, far more than a healer power issue?
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  10. #20
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    Ulala Ula
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    In short i never understood why they didnt move heavens and earth to get another GARO like event... and maybe give out rewards for 25-50-75 wins too, so ppl dont feel like they never make 100 wins. Just some nice glamour or anything, a title... idk why its so hard. Like with the roulett back now, make a "get 30 wins on each pvp map for a special mount - grab the GC horse, slap the pegasus recolored onto it, change a bit, ad some fancy, done.
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