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    KyleKatarn7's Avatar
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    Current Housing System is Exhausting and Unfun

    With the current housing system, a dozen people are crowded around a placard futilely clicking over and over again for hours at a time. I'm currently on day 6 of 4+ hour stints competing with a large group of people for the same plot of land. Others in that group have been trying for a house for much longer. Imagine the frustration when standing at a placard for 7 hours for somebody else to show up and, because of the luck of the draw, they get it. The existing system wouldn't be so bad if demand didn't perpetually outstrip supply, but it does and it needs to change.

    -ANY- system would be better than the current system. I propose a lottery system where all interested parties have 24 hours to sign up. During the 24 hours, the money for the house is in escrow. Anybody who loses the lottery gets their money back. At least that way everybody gets to play and enjoy the game instead of wasting hours and going insane from trying to appease an implacable, inanimate placard.
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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    oh look yet another thread spouting an argument that already exists. don't start more threads of the same, add it to one of the existing threads.
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    Stop. Bringing up. A. Lottery. System.

    I sincerely doubt anyone wants more competition and RNG added into the mix, which is exactly what this would accomplish. Be careful what you wish for, because you will probably regret wishing for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Stop. Bringing up. A. Lottery. System.

    I sincerely doubt anyone wants more competition and RNG added into the mix, which is exactly what this would accomplish. Be careful what you wish for, because you will probably regret wishing for this.
    Obviously they do when this idea keeps getting brought up.

    Then they'll be back to continue complaining when they still can't get a house because competition has increased from a half dozen players willing to put in the extra effort to get a house to several hundred players who sigh up for the lottery because hey why not? no effort required.

    It's a shame they won't ask for what's really needed, which is a system that provides enough houses to meet demand.
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    Oh, bully.

    This thread.

    Again.
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    Avyuir Sunstrike
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    Just wait until Ishgard housing is out and more wards are added. Trying to get a house while demolition is turned off and no new wards is literally going to give you cancer.
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    Jowy Khah
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    The only solution to the current system, is to make the invisible RNG timer, a visible RNG timer.

    This will reduce the hours spent clicking, for those who actually do...
    It will continue to restrict people from instantly buying up pre-agreed demolished land

    Anything else, in my mind, would just be a convoluted mess resulting in increased RNG, decreasing the likelihood of individuals obtaining a house and allowing players to find a loophole to exploit the system.

    As others have said though, best to wait and see what Ishgard brings us.
    Perhaps it will be just more of the same, or maybe they will shake things up and implement a different system but of course, SE learning from very loud backlash doesn't exactly have the best reputation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avyiur View Post
    Just wait until Ishgard housing is out and more wards are added.
    There is no confirmation that Ishgard housing will be available to players at all.
    This is for the NPCs that have lost their homes to the dragonsong war. Not us.
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    http://king.canadane.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Stop. Bringing up. A. Lottery. System.

    I sincerely doubt anyone wants more competition and RNG added into the mix, which is exactly what this would accomplish. Be careful what you wish for, because you will probably regret wishing for this.
    I mean, as far as I'm aware the timer was asked TOO to stop house flipping which it has not. It has just made it harder for everyone, house flippers and the people who thought they were tearing down the flippers' business.

    But the "I want it and I want it NOW!!" attitude with houses is strong on this board. Music stays the same, only dancers change.

    I can kinda see some kind of new/next storm brewing with people hyping "Ishgardian housing"/Ishgard restoration. If shitstorm over no female hrotgar/male viera was unsavoury, this has all the potential to be as bad.
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    Last edited by Burmecia; 08-13-2020 at 03:42 PM.

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    Ugh this again?

    Quote Originally Posted by KyleKatarn7 View Post
    The existing system wouldn't be so bad if demand didn't perpetually outstrip supply, but it does and it needs to change.
    If you know supply and demand is the issue then I really wonder why you think lottery would somehow help. Yea sure no more placard camping but it just swaps one issue for another.

    Some people would actually complain that placard camping was better for them because they had less competition so they had a better chance to get a house. A low effort lottery system makes their chances crazy small because literally anyone can participate. Which would of course mean a crazy amount of competition on highly populated servers. There would still be just as many people complaining about being unable to get a house.

    I swear it's like everyone who suggests lottery only ever thinks about the placard and almost nothing else.

    Yes the placard sucks but it's a symptom of the bad system. Not the cause.
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