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  1. #41
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    Videra Svenay
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So you want summons to work like a machinists's turret/Automaton and dark knight's Living Shadow?
    More Bard's songs, I think. We should be able to cycle through three different demi-summons, with one always being up - it'd help streamline the summoner lifecycle, as well.
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  2. #42
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    My suggestion didn't say "summon a primal so it stands with you for 10 seconds." My suggestion was to make summoning a 1 time skill attack by the primal and then it goes away while I do my own Summoner rotation for another 2-3 minutes then I'll summon the primal again for 1 big attack. I know FFX or was it FFXI made the "summoner" pet idea famous but for the longest part of FF's history the summon was always a 1 hit attack that hit very hard and looked impressive, that's what a real FF Summoner is to me. If they want a pet job they should add Beastmaster/Puppetmaster.
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  3. #43
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    Terros Lior
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    Bismarck's attacks are ranged.

    Honestly, I'd rather they go the route of Bahamut and Phoenix and remove egis altogether. I want to summon during the fight, not have a pet beside me all the time.
    I'd be fine if they went the demi route too, but we have to consider sub-50 players. They're not going to give a level 30 player the ability to summon Bahamut. But at the same time I don't think it's reasonable to not have any summons available pre-50 since it's, well, a Summoner.

    That aside, I'd be fine if they stuck with a demi rotation, but I'd still want demi glamours in that case. Bahamut and Phoenix just don't really do it for me. I want Leviathan!
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  4. #44
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by OvernightSiren View Post
    I'd be fine if they went the demi route too, but we have to consider sub-50 players. They're not going to give a level 30 player the ability to summon Bahamut. But at the same time I don't think it's reasonable to not have any summons available pre-50 since it's, well, a Summoner.

    That aside, I'd be fine if they stuck with a demi rotation, but I'd still want demi glamours in that case. Bahamut and Phoenix just don't really do it for me. I want Leviathan!
    In a system like that they would have to give carbuncle as your main summon until level 30, then you start getting your Ifrit, Titan, Garuda as summon options. Think of Fisher tackle box, that's how it would function; but they would all have the same potency, 1 big attack for 1100 potency or whatever then they disappear and you keep doing your poisoning until the summon gauge is filled every 3-5 minutes (but you can summon them for less potency at 10% for example).
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  5. #45
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    U'tabia Aisibhirwyn
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    You want to know why we don't hear about Egi glamours anymore? Because people have gotten tired of asking for something to spice up the pets we've had for (At Sept 30th this year) ten years. Pure and simple, really.
    At some point, people get the hint that the company isn't listening to the demand that something has and will give up; And because its something that's very simple (especially in comparison of any other request that people have had regarding characters), it starts to dishearten people.
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    Last edited by frostmagemari; 08-10-2020 at 06:54 AM.

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post
    You want to know why we don't hear about Egi glamours anymore? Because people have gotten tired of asking for something to spice up the pets we've had for (At Sept 30th this year) ten years. Pure and simple, really.
    At some point, people get the hint that the company isn't listening to the demand that something has and will give up; And because its something that's very simple (especially in comparison of any other request that people have had regarding characters), it starts to dishearten people.
    Arcanist wasn't in 1.0 so it's more like 7 years rather than 10.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    Arcanist wasn't in 1.0 so it's more like 7 years rather than 10.
    My apologies, yes. I forgot what the exact date Realm Reborn was released, so i googled Realm Reborn release date and it gave me 1.0's release date and i put it in without thinking.
    Still, seven years gets my point across either way.
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    Last edited by frostmagemari; 08-10-2020 at 07:13 AM.

  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post
    My apologies, yes. I forgot what the exact date Realm Reborn was released, so i googled Realm Reborn release date and it gave me 1.0's release date and i put it in without thinking.
    Still, seven years gets my point across either way.
    It gets worse. They even teased us about getting Ramuh-egi back when HW was first launching then putting some not-so-cleverly done reasoning as to why we ended up NOT getting anything more than the original 3 in the first HW summoner quest.

    So summoners in XIV can only obtain 3 summons while in pretty much every other final fantasy game to include them there's always at least 5.
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  9. #49
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    Any devs want to comment?
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    Jasla Angelkin
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    Quote Originally Posted by OvernightSiren View Post
    Any devs want to comment?
    Devs don't post here, sadly. Most you'd get is a mod telling you that they passed it along, or that they are "looking into it".
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