FF14 players need to draw a line in the sand or watch the RPG get destroyed

[Puremallace]

So the new drama is FF14 players are very hostile in our maid outfits and frog costumes at end game to new people suggesting ideas. If that new person suggest that bard seems slow or FF14 needs to content in between Savage and Extreme hey I am right there with you.

Where you lose me is this comment "we just need to get rid of all this story stuff and just unlock everything. Guess what it is an mmoRPGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Hate the story then hit esc and click through and have fun. The leveling is stupid easy and quick or hand over $7 bucks. Want to know what is going to happen is everyone that says man ARR sucks but Heavenward is great is going to make new people skip all of ARR under the false assumption everything in ARR is horrible.

Want to know another MMO that does not require you to unlock anything and no longer feels like an RPG to the point they are literally about to force people to RPG with massive consequences to your class in their latest expansion? World of Warcraft

There was a time where you had to get keys to unlock dungeons and raids. You were not going in until someone went through the long quest line to open that raid and you know what that felt like a damn RPG. What do you now? Queue go in get out and do not know no anything about the dungeon you are in or what is going on.

I am cool with HUNDREDSSS of other suggestions but I do not go into other games with core systems that literal make the game unique and tell the devs to change it then not expect to get stomped on by the player base. It is beyond aggravating that FF14 are scared to defend this because people heard FF14 has great end game and now only want to experience that.

This crying and whining about how mean FF14 people are to new suggestions is simply not true and a lie. People are defending core aspects of a FINAL FANTASY game and that is story.

TL'Dr: Don't like story then hit the escape button.

[Roda]

A little forceful, but I ultimately agree with your points.

I don't play an mmorpg to lobby queue my way to The Big Number. I play them to get immersed, to get to know characters and the world they live in, and I want to interact with the world and these characters in meaningful ways. The fun combat and compelling engame mechanics are a bonus. :P

[Puremallace]

Like I said I can name so much stuff I would like that does not just dump on the literal point of the game. I get people heard TEA is super awesome and are super elite pro players from the MMO world but cool it is still a game that exist for people besides you. Every single time I have seen an MMO no matter what it is throw out what makes it special under the delusion of "making the game more accessible" it has become bland as people get bored.

[Vahlnir]

I mean, the dev team has shown little to no sign of changing course with their overall design so I don't see how this is an issue?

[linayar]

I mean, the dev team has shown little to no sign of changing course with their overall design so I don't see how this is an issue?

It's probably not an issue now, but I think if people keep quiet, there is valid cause for concern that the devs will eventually think the community has changed and simply want to go straight to instanced content and may change the game.

I suppose the point is just to make sure to voice your opinion if you support the current role of story quests in the game any time there is a call to change it.

[Saix027]

Can't agree even more, most MMO's have the problem in my eyes being endgame focused so leveling is boring same for stories and countless sidequests that not impact anything or give info about any.

I blame dungeons in general, this whole queuing in generla needs to stop, i look at GW2, sure not much endcontent as well but i can play whenever i want, the world is the adventure, the world is full of people, rarely you see completly empty maps.

I mean i cry always a little that so much work flows in maps for people to only skip them and forget them, in GW2 i keep finding new thigns since it makes you explore, most other MMO's simply have it as grind to level, boring and long.

Everything can tell a good story, not just the mainquest, it just needs to be good implanted, not just some dailys, i simply miss actually the content we goten with like the relic weapons, sending you in older maps, then we goten Eurika which i never entered till today, a content island to grind the same boring Fates over and over, with other relics there is at least variety and traveling partly.

And yes GW2 also has events/fates. but they differ so much in what you can do, not just collect or slay. I point to one of the latest maps, Icebrood Saga, a goddamn metal concert with so many events in it mixed and it is just fun, here or other MMO's? Done one event, you done them all.

Don't get me wrong, i love the story here but the gamepaly i can see why people can complain, most classes are sadly boring under lvl 50 or higher, the levelign down of skills is simply problematic when you suddenly can only spawn one attack. The dungeons and experience needs a heavy rework, i can see how it turns people off, not just shorten the filler quests between ARR and HW.

[phantomr23]

Literally who is suggesting that we get rid of the story? I have not seen a single person mention this and if anyone has I suspect they were rightfully ridiculed. Your weird vendetta against endgame raiders doesn't really work because uh, a lot of us really like this game's story too?

[Vahlnir]

Literally who is suggesting that we get rid of the story? I have not seen a single person mention this and if anyone has I suspect they were rightfully ridiculed. Your weird vendetta against endgame raiders doesn't really work because uh, a lot of us really like this game's story too?

Yeah, I haven't seen this either, at least not recently. At most I've seen some (and a very small number at that) ask for the story to be optional. But that, too, has been awhile.

[linayar]

Literally who is suggesting that we get rid of the story? I have not seen a single person mention this and if anyone has I suspect they were rightfully ridiculed.

Maybe not get rid of the story, but people have asked to make story optional in terms of unlocking instanced content. Some want it like WoW where you just need to reach the appropriate level to be able to queue to a dungeon/raid. It can cause problem, like if you want to have a story to go to a dungeon but gets it in a roulette because you're at the appropriate level for it.

[Goji1639]

I think this game could use a much larger variety of progression content, and I do think part of the reason why we don't get it is SE's need to add a ton of exposition to everything.

I enjoy the story content, but I think SE could add more progression content for smaller groups or even individuals if they didn't try to build 3 hours of story around everything they release.