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    The Devs apparently learned very little from the bad aspects of Eureka.

    Anyone else remember the whole "Portal Sniping" Fiasco from Eureka? Well, get ready for Portal Sniping 2.0.

    First off there's this:



    So you'll have a zone with 72 in it but randomly choose 24-48 of them to participate in a battle that provides bonus rewards and you DON"T think there's going to be animosity or griefing?

    Sure there are ways to mitigate that RNG, but the devs didn't say how hard it would be to obtain those items (Think the old Magia enhancers, 1% drop rates etc)

    If so, I have a bridge to sell you.

    Then you have the solo battle. From what we've heard you have to be the best person in the fight.

    If you don't think FC's / Linkshells / Discords aren't going to pick one person to try to boost for prestige you are out of your mind. Playing as a Tank or a Healer? Not happening.

    Also:



    Same as Eureka, the gear you earn in Bozja will essentially be useless in the content you earn it in. All of those 5 slot melds in the gear? Gone with sync.

    These systems simply seem extremely not thought through enough.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 07-23-2020 at 12:08 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    They also mentioned ways to get priority by just participating. We will see what happens (because bots), but at first glance players being there AFK and doing nothing to contribute are less likely to get anything this time around.

    Solo battles, knowing ILvL cap is 430, sounds like a step in the right direction to nudge people to improve.

    Edit: Max amount of player per instance is 100. If the critical engagements happen often enough players are bound to rotate. However, not going to lie, I'm trying to be positive because of Potato, I haven't forgot of Firmament Fates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    They also mentioned ways to get priority by just participating. We will see what happens (because bots), but at first glance players being there AFK and doing nothing to contribute are less likely to get anything this time around.

    Solo battles, knowing ILvL cap is 430, sounds like a step in the right direction to nudge people to improve.

    Edit: Max amount of player per instance is 100. If the critical engagements happen often enough players are bound to rotate. However, not going to lie, I'm trying to be positive because of Potato, I haven't forgot of Firmament Fates.
    The ilvl cap is also pretty ridiculous as it makes any gear earned in Bozja irrelevant in the content it's being played at same as Eureka was with it's gear. All the melds are removed.

    What's the point of having a 430 sync if the gear rewarded is 485+ You don't get the benefit of it.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    The ilvl cap is also pretty ridiculous as it makes any gear earned in Bozja irrelevant in the content it's being played at same as Eureka was with it's gear. All the melds are removed.

    What's the point of having a 430 sync if the gear rewarded is 485+ You don't get the benefit of it.
    *points at final level Eurekan gear*

    If it works like that, you'll get a bigger bonus in the instance from having it on you. A good Eurekan set of armor (with the elemental bonus) is still more powerful than our current gear while in Baldesian Arsenal. If they play it like that, we'll get plenty of benefit from getting it. Assuming of course, they thought ahead (which is up in the air).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    *points at final level Eurekan gear*

    If it works like that, you'll get a bigger bonus in the instance from having it on you. A good Eurekan set of armor (with the elemental bonus) is still more powerful than our current gear while in Baldesian Arsenal. If they play it like that, we'll get plenty of benefit from getting it. Assuming of course, they thought ahead (which is up in the air).
    Yeah and that gear required multiple runs of BA, possibly the hardest content in the game at the time to acquire.

    Most people never got it.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Yeah and that gear required multiple runs of BA, possibly the hardest content in the game at the time to acquire.

    Most people never got it.
    What? BA was never hard provided you joined the discord community associated with your DC. Furthermore, they hosted Frag runs on a constant daily basis. You could slowly get a full Elemental+ set without ever touching AV or Ozma.

    If you didn't get it. That was because you didn't want it or disliked Eureka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Yeah and that gear required multiple runs of BA, possibly the hardest content in the game at the time to acquire.

    Most people never got it.
    People just farmed the first two bosses to get them. There was nothing difficult about Art/Owain or Raiden. People still do BA now even though it doesn't have any buffs like the other zones in Eureka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Yeah and that gear required multiple runs of BA, possibly the hardest content in the game at the time to acquire.

    Most people never got it.
    BA is not exactly hard content. The groups running them do amazing callouts and you can pretty much run everything blind without dying. I still don't like eureka and will most likely not like this content either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    The ilvl cap is also pretty ridiculous as it makes any gear earned in Bozja irrelevant in the content it's being played at same as Eureka was with it's gear. All the melds are removed.

    What's the point of having a 430 sync if the gear rewarded is 485+ You don't get the benefit of it.
    I pointed out the same in my thread lol ...it sucks, it was already a mistake in Eureka, but well... they should just finally give in and remove materia sync, maybe just adjust the overall downsync so materia is considered or whatever...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    The ilvl cap is also pretty ridiculous as it makes any gear earned in Bozja irrelevant in the content it's being played at same as Eureka was with it's gear. All the melds are removed.

    What's the point of having a 430 sync if the gear rewarded is 485+ You don't get the benefit of it.
    Considering that non-80players can attend. and are synched up. I assume its to ensure they don't get left behind and have a shot at finsihing the battles without needing a carry.

    Might also be used for part of the niche Deep Dungeons filled as well.
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