Time to stop making synced content

[Baxcel]

Honestly, wouldve been fine if they had at least synced it to 450 or 460. We're at about 490-500 atm, so it seems reasonable. I'm more curious about what the prizes will be. That's gonna be the real incentive. If there's nothing worth it (mounts/minions, hair styles, what not), I'm not sure how this is gonna bring players into the content. So I am rather curious what the items will be in this pool

From what Yoshi P said about it.. would be minions and possible mounts that rotate in and out for which boss is currently up.. right now most of us assume the unicorn shown in the mount section is the big reward from Shiva's faux board.. not a drop from the combat but from the mini-game like with Wounderous Tails.

[Vahlnir]

Well yeah its above Hard but not as hard as Extreme.. i don't know where they would put it besides raidfinder?

Since they'll be swapped out by patch it wouldn't be able to have its own tab on duty finder.. in raid finder they can't just add the new one each time..

They tend to exaggerate difficulty at times, so we'll honestly just have to see just how hard or easy it is for ourselves.

[Nestama]

Couldn't you just pick undersized before queueing to ignore the ilevel sync? or does Unreal have the same restrictions as Ultimate?

[DPZ2]

Mate, I have the gear I have because I’m able to clear the fights. ... Why even bother getting gear at this point?

I assume you geared to i500 because it was a reward for content you successfully ran. I assume you'll continue to run that sort of content, and your iLevel will increase as the patches continue. If that isn't the point of getting better gear, then I question why you have to be geared at iLevel 500, when current dungeon-story content can be met by iLevel 440 gear?

Yeah, I know the possible answers to that question. End game. Higher level raids. Things that actually require that 500 iLevel (or will, in patch 5.3).

And, my favorite: I enjoy out gearing old content so that I don't have to work as hard to finish it.

[Puremallace]

I think people are getting confused with progression content and not just a side thing

[Sabrenn]

I think people are getting confused with progression content and not just a side thing

It's going in the raid finder.

[ForteNightshade]

As I’ve stated before, it has nothing about wanting steamroll everything. It’s about being able to use the gear I’ve earned. The gear I have the skill to earn btw. The fact remains that the natural order of things is at first content is tougher, then you get better gear and learn fights making them easier. Is it my fault my gear is better than most? What is happening is I’m not being c***blocked by this item level sync making the effort I put forth pretty much useless outside the raid itself. Yes, being item level 500 WILL make it easier, as it damn well should.

It won't just "make it easier" though. It'll neuter the fight to be effectively pointless. When you get BiS in 5.4 or 5.5 go back and clear E4S. You'll obliterate him; skipping the entirely of phase three, and a good chunk of phase two. At that point, the dev team made a piece of content which will last all of four minutes and not a single mechanic will remotely threaten you.

The whole point of syncing content is because there's no realistic way to balance it with such a linear leveling system like we have. If they put it at i465 with no sync, we're steamrolling through which makes working on it kind of pointless. If they put it at i485—closer to the current ilvl cap—it prevents people who haven't been playing from participating. Considering Unreal is more geared towards the casual playerbase. That restriction makes little sense.

You think I’m quaking in my boots cos I can item level cheese the fight? Mate, I have the gear I have because I’m able to clear the fights. I’m i500 because I can’t actually play the game. I also cleared shiva extreme when that was current tier content. My anger is the fact that my gear and melds are pointless outside the very raid I got it from. I’ve said this many many times. I’m sick of item level sync content. Bozja, synced. Expert, synced. Unreal, synced. It’s dumb. Why even bother getting gear at this point?

I don't disagree they need more content where our raid gear is relevant but that isn't likely to happen as this game focuses very heavily towards including everyone. For the exact reason you them to abandon syncing is why they won't. You'll be leagues above more casual players, thus it'll make content like Bozja less enjoyable for them. Granted, I'd actually argue the content would be worse for those of us with higher level gear. Why? They'll always balance things like Bozja, Expert and such around the casual demographic. I wouldn't find it all that fun going into Bozka next month and laughing as the i430 mobs barely tickle my i500 tank. Frankly, that makes the game boring.

As for why bother gearing. Ultimate. That's literally the reason, which is why I really think there needs to be three. Since this tier lacks an Ultimate encounter, parses are all you have. And while SE will never admit it. They know how much they benefit from FFlogs given how much people care over their logs. If neither of these activities interest you, then there isn't a point to gearing up. FFXIV is more or less designed that way.

[Baxcel]

Couldn't you just pick undersized before queueing to ignore the ilevel sync? or does Unreal have the same restrictions as Ultimate?

Nah the lv80 stuff cant be unsynced currently.. they don't unlock that until the next level upgrade.. so probably 6.0 unless they decide to raise the level of unreal with it too

[Tsumdere]

You think I’m quaking in my boots cos I can item level cheese the fight? Mate, I have the gear I have because I’m able to clear the fights. I’m i500 because I can’t actually play the game. I also cleared shiva extreme when that was current tier content. My anger is the fact that my gear and melds are pointless outside the very raid I got it from. I’ve said this many many times. I’m sick of item level sync content. Bozja, synced. Expert, synced. Unreal, synced. It’s dumb. Why even bother getting gear at this point?

If you have been playing the game this long, you should know that your raid gear means nothing outside of raids. Never has, never will. Your gear is for the raids themselves, ultimate, and parsing. That is why you get gear - not so you can smash through casual content tied to a minigame.

Plus it's going in the raid finder. You don't get casual content in the raid finder......

I don't think it is geared towards the casual playerbase. :|

Memoria Miseria is in the Raid Finder. Memoria Miseria is casual content.

[Sabrenn]

I just realized something, if it's really meant to be casual content then it would be based on the normal mode shiva... right?

But they said they want people to experience the fight without unsyncing it and clearing it in a few seconds.

However, I don't know of anyone unsyncing shiva normal because that just comes up in trial roulette and so the queue time for that isn't that long. (and it's not hard)

Therefore the only other shiva IS the extreme version.

Plus it's going in the raid finder. You don't get casual content in the raid finder......

I don't think it is geared towards the casual playerbase. :|