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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    was just using it as an example. they also want people fresh on finishing level 80 to be able to play the mini-game too.
    That's absolutely fine, but the issue here is the lock of a mere 5 ilv between the minimum ilv being 430. Do you honestly not see the issue here? The only improvement in gear that you can bring to this is 5 ilv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrenn View Post
    I think syncing to 430 is a mistake, and they should've let it be any ilv.

    Why? Because all this will do is reinforce what I guaratee you we'll see: PF's locked to "must have cleared original shiva ex" so that the people know mechanics.
    ARR EX trials are soloable unsynced. PF has no way to lock against people who cleared them unsynced.
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    The only nitpick I have with sync is materia. Materia is useless in so much content, it's surprising they don't just scale it down along with your gear (so if you're scaled to il130, your grade VIII becomes grade IV's). 435 is an interesting bracket where you can't get much advantage from melded gear too, the closest is 430 artifact gear and that melded isn't really that much better than 435 unmelded.

    But it's just a nitpick, it's fine to have everyone on an even playing field for gear, especially if they want it to feel like experiencing it as it was back in the day. Letting you zerg it would go against the whole point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    ARR EX trials are soloable unsynced. PF has no way to lock against people who cleared them unsynced.
    Of course not. But if you join a pf that says that you're basically lying if you only cleared it unsync. It's your choice and you might get through just fine. But I honestly think we'll see it.

    I honestly hope I'm wrong on that one, but if I'm not i'll be back with a screenshot and say "I told you so" lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrenn View Post
    Of course not. But if you join a pf that says that you're basically lying if you only cleared it unsync. It's your choice and you might get through just fine. But I honestly think we'll see it.

    I honestly hope I'm wrong on that one, but if I'm not i'll be back with a screenshot and say "I told you so" lol.
    I'm sure it'll be the same like any other high end duties. People will clear it early and just run duty complete ASAP. No need to check for Shiva EX.
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    This is a bit nitpicky I know and its not like it really bothers me, but i've also noticed how people with worse gear than me have more hp than me in synced content
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    It's not meant for simply raiders sorry. Go do your savage and ultimates that is what your raid gear is for. This is aimed at a different community which is meant to be more inclusive.
    No its middleground like ex trials and it should be harder, it should have at least 460 as that would be a nice middle field, but noooo...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrenn View Post
    Did you read the main post? They're not asking it to be ilv500, they're asking for it to be relaxed so people above ilv435 aren't punished for having better gear.
    For one patch... then as gear progresses, they'll be "punished" again anyway.

    This isn't a new trial that follows gear progression.
    It's a old trial rereleased as part of a new form of casual side content that will cycle.
    It's moogle tomes in a different form.
    It's wonderous tails.
    You don't complain that all of the old content involved in those is ilvl synced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    No its middleground like ex trials and it should be harder, it should have at least 460 as that would be a nice middle field, but noooo...
    Why? In a patch or two, 460 will be just as far behind, and the Unreal trial at that time will still be synced to the same ilvl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrenn View Post
    Did you read the main post? They're not asking it to be ilv500, they're asking for it to be relaxed so people above ilv435 aren't punished for having better gear.
    They aren't being punished. It's a mini-game.

    It's honestly quite funny seeing people quaking in their boots about not being able to ilvl cheese their way through SHIVA EX (one of the easiest EXs ever). If you have ilvl 500 gear, you should be able to smash this Unreal Trial synced or not because you SHOULD know your rotations much more than the average player.
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