Time to stop making synced content

[RicaRuin]

You make 0 sense . I was talking about my gear ? no. I'm talking about how ilvl 430 is to low for a high lvl content with extreme difficulty and how he will allow literally new player to participe without knowing how to play their job

Oh no, ilvl 430 is too low for extreme content at level 80. Who's going to tell Titania?


Jokes aside, I know what you're getting at. But we get another Extreme Trial that won't be synching us.

I suspect they set 430 as a bar they will keep for Unreal Trials for simplicity's sake. After all, Shiva will be swapped for another one come 5.4, and if you were to increase the ilvl then (which would be natural if we used a current ilvl now) then you lock out more casual players they could access it before. And they just wanted to create a new kind of content everyone can access once they reach 80 without much grinding.

(I can understand the frustration about the Gear being 'devalued' in this case.)


Edit @ you other post:
I am well aware Unreal are old Extreme trials bumped to 80. But they don't serve as a current Ex Trial that scales off current Gear, rather a content used in a mini game.

[LaylaTsarra]

You make 0 sense . I was talking about my gear ? no. I'm talking about how ilvl 430 is to low for a high lvl content with extreme difficulty and how he will allow literally new player to participe without knowing how to play their job

Oh 0 sense. I know you were taking about gear. Ilevel sync humm thank you so much for explaining that. I'm sure I didn't know that without you telling me. This was a 50 level extreme that's been upgraded to ilevel 430. They didn't up to ilevel 500 to satisfy your wants/community. It's meant to include oh those Filthy Casuals too.

Then use PF. like you should do with Extreme primals?

Yes indeed.

[Rilifane]

The community has been asking for accessible mid difficulty content for years. Something that is accessible but decently challenging. And we get it in the form of unreal trials.
They specifically said "similiar difficulty" not "the exact same thing it was when you did it in crap gear and no idea about your class back in ARR and got trounced". Remember that we also have completely different toolkits than back then; so my money is on unreal trials being a little bit below actual extreme difficulty.

Ilvl 430 is low, syncing it at 435 is low but that is the whole point of unreal trials, right? Besides, you get basically free 480 via normal raids, free 455 via Anamnesis and crafted 480 is dirt-cheap by now so it's not like having 460 instead of 430 flags you as an expert of your class.
You get to max level, you get your artifact gear, supplement it with some drops from the 80s dungeons you had to go through for story anyway and then you can dip your toes in more challenging, current content. While Titania and Innocence are nice and alll, the fact that you don't get synced down and that it's old content means that experienced and geared players will steamroll it for you. Something that keeps its difficulty instead of getting steamrolled by BiS players or after 2-3 weeks of release is good practice for someone who thinks about getting into endgame content.

Savage gear is useful in all content; you are not suddenly naked when getting synced. There is simply a cap to how much you need to grind to get the best stats and anything above will give you a bonus in endgame content but not everywhere. And allowing every type of content to be unlocked means that the gap between casual content and endgame content will grow even further (and it's already huge) because you will regulary see savage raiders steamroll it for you, making it even more difficult to make the transition.

[Seraphor]

Unreal fights are previously not intended to be BiS geared content, merely 'level 80' content, so that players who reach level 80 have a more casual alternative to end game raiding.

It's not another Savage or Ultimate tier fight if that's what you were expecting.
It doesn't give you gear.

[Waterscape]

Oh 0 sense. I know you were taking about gear. Ilevel sync humm thank you so much for explaining that. I'm sure I didn't know that without you telling me. This was a 50 level extreme that's been upgraded to ilevel 430. They didn't up to ilevel 500 to satisfy your wants/community. It's meant to include oh those Filthy Casuals too.



Yes indeed.

Yeah this confirm that you make 0 sense next time use your brain. I'm just saying that ilvl 430 is to low . Not talking about gear not talking about casual player or anything like that .

[Waterscape]

Oh no, ilvl 430 is too low for extreme content at level 80. Who's going to tell Titania?


Jokes aside, I know what you're getting at. But we get another Extreme Trial that won't be synching us.

I suspect they set 430 as a bar they will keep for Unreal Trials for simplicity's sake. After all, Shiva will be swapped for another one come 5.4, and if you were to increase the ilvl then (which would be natural if we used a current ilvl now) then you lock out more casual players they could access it before. And they just wanted to create a new kind of content everyone can access once they reach 80 without much grinding.

(I can understand the frustration about the Gear being 'devalued' in this case.)


Edit @ you other post:
I am well aware Unreal are old Extreme trials bumped to 80. But they don't serve as a current Ex Trial that scales off current Gear, rather a content used in a mini game.

Titania was 1 year ago ......

[LaylaTsarra]

Yeah this confirm that you make 0 sense next time use your brain. I'm just saying that ilvl 430 is to low . Not talking about gear not talking about casual player or anything like that .

Oh resorting to insults now. I don't have a brain only you do right. Got it. I'm sure casuals aren't in 490 gear only 430 right? I'm sure casuals don't meld their gear only raiders do right? That sure makes the case for you. Sorry the devs aren't in your court.

[LineageRazor]

Savage gear is useful in all content; you are not suddenly naked when getting synced. There is simply a cap to how much you need to grind to get the best stats and anything above will give you a bonus in endgame content but not everywhere. And allowing every type of content to be unlocked means that the gap between casual content and endgame content will grow even further (and it's already huge) because you will regulary see savage raiders steamroll it for you, making it even more difficult to make the transition.

I think what folks are complaining about when they talk about needing to get new gear is that when you level sync equipment, the value of ALL materia slotted in that gear is reduced to zero. So, for a ilvl 435 capped fight, sure you can wear your ilvl 500 savage gear, but ilvl 430 gear will be BETTER, because you can actually make use of the stats from the materia you slot into it.

I don't know if this fight is going to be tuned hard enough that overmelded 430 crafted gear will be necessary to clear it, but it's always irritating to have to carry around a full second set of gear to be optimal for a given fight.

It's still a mystery to me why the devs didn't build the level sync system to sync materia along with the other stats on the gear. It would have saved folks an awful lot of trouble. As it is, folks progging Ultimate fights typically have to farm up a full set of the appropriate Savage gear first, which is a major annoyance (both the farming, and also having to manage the extra set of gear with limited inventory).

[Seddrinth]

There’s the answer from a casual player I was expecting. The raid should not be the only place our gear is useful. The raid should be where we get the gear from and then be able to use said gear in all content. Casual player expect to be able to participate in all content, I expect my gear to be useful in all content

Wow you look down on casuals so much but it looks like you've only cleared savage Ramuh recently and nothing else. Strange.

[Waterscape]

Oh resorting to insults now. I don't have a brain only you do right. Got it. I'm sure casuals aren't in 490 gear only 430 right? That sure makes the case for you. Sorry the devs aren't in your court.

Where is the insult ? "use your brain ?" . Why do you keep mentioning casual player ? i never talked about that . Again you make 0 sense i'm done talking to you.