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    The sync for shiva is so it isn't too easy.

    It's a bonus fight for a bonus reward. If you want an easy clear, just go do shiva ex. If they released a scaled up version of shiva for unreal, but then had no ilvl sync, people would be skipping phases from day 1 basically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stepjam View Post
    The sync for shiva is so it isn't too easy.

    It's a bonus fight for a bonus reward. If you want an easy clear, just go do shiva ex. If they released a scaled up version of shiva for unreal, but then had no ilvl sync, people would be skipping phases from day 1 basically.
    Ilvl sync doesn't mean a thing, because it's SE that tune the encounter. The encounter could very well be tuned so it would be easy in ilvl 435. More likely it is meant to be a casual content, to be easily accessed without farming much.
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    A lot of people here seem to have missed this part of the patch notes (emphasis mine):
    Unreal trials are new versions of familiar duties, designed to challenge players who have reached the current level cap by providing an experience of similar difficulty to the original versions of these encounters at the time of their release.
    It's evident that the intention is not to create just another trial which becomes easily farmable as gear levels increase. In order to consistently hit that intended experience they have to control the available item levels pretty tightly. Now, I don't know exactly what gearing point at the time of release they're aiming for; Akh Afah Amphitheatre was originally released in 2.4, and before that the very best item level was 110. In the same patch Ironworks and Augmented Ironworks gear was released, bringing the highest item level to 130. So in theory it could be anything between 95 and 130, though I think 100-110 is more likely.
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    git gud XD
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    You care about the gear at all? It can be synced to ilvl 10 for what people could care because all they care about is the challenge. I do agree however that new content synced so low is just strange lol
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    I dont get where OP is getting Unreal is Extreme upsynced to 80.. Yoshi P said himself when it was announced that it would be content between Hard an Extreme.. he said it would be for all players at lv80 to attempt to clear a lv80 buffed version of old primals..

    If you read into that thinking that it was going to be super endgame lv80 ilvl500+ thats your fault as it was clearly mentioned it wouldn't be that.

    This is a mini game style content with rewards that are leaving.. they want to give as many people a chance to get them before their gone and having the ilvl set to end of 5.0 range is the best way to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxcel View Post
    I dont get where OP is getting Unreal is Extreme upsynced to 80.. Yoshi P said himself when it was announced that it would be content between Hard an Extreme.. he said it would be for all players at lv80 to attempt to clear a lv80 buffed version of old primals..

    If you read into that thinking that it was going to be super endgame lv80 ilvl500+ thats your fault as it was clearly mentioned it wouldn't be that.

    This is a mini game style content with rewards that are leaving.. they want to give as many people a chance to get them before their gone and having the ilvl set to end of 5.0 range is the best way to do that.

    From the last live letter (fan translation)

    Y "The unreal trials will be a new battle category, but it will be more of a "revival" of the old fights"
    Y "Now, everyone enters these fights unsynced and it takes seconds. If you sync down it feels off because of limitations to your jobs, so this time it will be the other way, the boss will upsync to us"
    Bosses will rotate with patches
    Y "I tested shiva of course "Wait, back then raid wide damage wasn't a cast?", i had totally forgotten. There will be a few things that will feel fresh, especially for players who didn't experience the fights back then"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrenn View Post
    From the last live letter (fan translation)
    Yah i see that but he's didnt mention Ex or HM in that live letter, but in the first one where he mentioned it he did say it would be between those difficulties.. ?
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    Oh yeah, they're also adding it to the raid finder
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...d#unreal_shiva

    AFAIK, they don't add casual content to the raid finder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrenn View Post
    Oh yeah, they're also adding it to the raid finder
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...d#unreal_shiva

    AFAIK, they don't add casual content to the raid finder.
    Well yeah its above Hard but not as hard as Extreme.. i don't know where they would put it besides raidfinder?

    Since they'll be swapped out by patch it wouldn't be able to have its own tab on duty finder.. in raid finder they can't just add the new one each time..
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