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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Casual "raiding" content to be more specific.

    Extreme Primals as a whole are more less considered casual to low-midcore. They're intended for people to get a feel for more difficult content that can actually threaten you but will typically be curb stomped by players more familiar with the raid scene.
    I mean yea of course you can do raids casually, that doesn't make it casual content. The gold saucer is casual content. MSQ is casual content. Ishgard restoration is casual content.

    Extremes, savages, ultimates have different difficulties in a curve and players who are casual can attempt everything of course. That doesn't make it casual content. Normal mode trials are the casual versions.

    I can be in a casual static, but do non-casual content casually not caring about when I clear or if I'm wearing bis. Just because I'm being casual about it doesn't make the content casual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrenn View Post
    I mean yea of course you can do raids casually, that doesn't make it casual content. The gold saucer is casual content. MSQ is casual content. Ishgard restoration is casual content.

    Extremes, savages, ultimates have different difficulties in a curve and players who are casual can attempt everything of course. That doesn't make it casual content. Normal mode trials are the casual versions.

    I can be in a casual static, but do non-casual content casually not caring about when I clear or if I'm wearing bis. Just because I'm being casual about it doesn't make the content casual.
    Hence why it's being classified as casual raid content. What the dev team chooses to classify it as isn't necessarily going to be the same, especially given the Yoshida is notorious for overselling the difficulty of content. From a raiding perspective, this is casual content because it'll be extremely easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Hence why it's being classified as casual raid content. What the dev team chooses to classify it as isn't necessarily going to be the same, especially given the Yoshida is notorious for overselling the difficulty of content. From a raiding perspective, this is casual content because it'll be extremely easy.
    It might be easy for you but I just heard someone on discord yesterday say they couldn't beat Memoria Misera. And that's what most people here would consider easy, especially because of the ilv not being synced.

    I might agree with you that it's easy raiding content but it's just because you and I have the ability to clear them. Doesn't make it casual. The story mode that lets you unlock memoria where you fight the npc in the cutscene is the casual version.
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    You can wait almost a year for next 4 savage bosses, than just wait 7+ months more for ultimate, it's simple as that, also, you can use your gear in extremes so you can farm recolored mount.
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    Shiva Unreal is also just Shiva Extreme, but tuned for level 80 characters. If we were to compare her to ShB's current Extreme Trials, she would be the easiest of them all (as she was the easiest Extreme Trial in ARR days, like Garuda EX). The only hard part about her is Glass Dance and Avalanche.

    As for how Raid Finder works, it's for when you decide to do the fights via the DF instead of the PF. Having Duty Complete checked means you will only encounter people who have cleared the fight as well and you can only have Duty Complete checked if you have completed the fight itself. Otherwise you can only choose Duty Incomplete, which means you will only encounter people who haven't completed the fight... but then that's when the other checks come in (basically, having specific things checked = who you will party with in DF).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Shiva Unreal is also just Shiva Extreme, but tuned for level 80 characters. If we were to compare her to ShB's current Extreme Trials, she would be the easiest of them all (as she was the easiest Extreme Trial in ARR days, like Garuda EX). The only hard part about her is Glass Dance and Avalanche.
    Yeah. Back in the day the hardest part of Shiva Ex was unlocking Shiva Ex. I had that one beat in like, a duty and a half and was farming it a couple after that. Took me a little while to get there though because some of the trials were horrible at the time. Ramuh probably gave me the biggest run for my money and sanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrenn View Post
    A lot of people on this thread are assuming it's either:
    -side content
    -between hard/extreme difficulty
    -casual
    The purpose of it is that it is Extreme difficulty, but accessible to people who aren't fully geared.
    You can go in day one, without being penalised for not farming the last savage tier.
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    It does make it feel a little like gear doesn't matter at times.

    I think that they could not sync in the current expansion but still do it in the old content otherwise you'd just one-shotting everything lol.
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    All I know is that current max level content should be designed for the max current item level of gear that is available when it's released. There absolutely should be a window for those that don't have quite max but syncing down right off the bat, especially so much, is a bad feeling.
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    Oh please, let me recall something people said a while back about gloating rights, how when you beat something and have something to prove, now the ilv is a issue?

    I would say anyone who beats unreal at maximum level you can't really have gloating rights, would be way more impressive if a bunch of low levels did it, this means they can dodge better, work together better than a high level ever could accomplish only then they can gloat, not the high levels and I believe that's why people have a issue because well if a low level out does you in that fight then they set the bar.

    Is that why you don't want the minimum level? I mean higher levels doesn't make you a better player, I out done people at lower level and watched people who had way better gear crash and burn, This i seen first hand in FFXI a guy gloating when garuda was released about how great his dark knight was versus my cousin's dark knight saying he was under geared and cousin out performed him and he died and home pointed and logged out because he ate his words.

    Syncing is fine in my book the only ones who have issues is they love to blame the lower levels when they are the ones dying.
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