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    15 Glamour plates is not enough

    There are possibly already several threads complaining about this matter, but I feel the need to bring it up again:

    We don't have enough glamour plates.
    So the fundamental idea of glamour plates was initially, that jobs that share gear can have different glamours. This idea is nice and good, but with the amount of glamour plates we have right now, players who like to play every job cannot use it as intended.

    Currently we have 15 glamour plates and you might say "but the amount was already increased!", yes, but not enough. The problem is, that there are too many jobs that share gear. Those are:

    - All 4 tanks (+4 = 4 plates)
    - All 3 healers (+3 = 7 plates)
    - MNK and SAM (+2 = 9 plates)
    - All 3 ranged physical jobs (+3 = 12 plates)
    - All 3 caster jobs (+3 = 15 plates)
    - All 8 crafter jobs (+8 = 23 plates)
    - All 3 gatherer jobs (+3 = 26 plates)

    We have 15 plates now. Bottom line: We need at least 11 more plates, for people that want to glamour their crafters & gatherers differently.
    If there are more jobs coming out in 6.0 that amount has to be increased as well, if the new jobs share gear as well.
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    Yes. So much yes.

    There's not even enough plates for Jobs, nevermind DoL and DoH classes if all you want to do is use even a single piece of job specific armour on each.

    P.S. you forgot DRG, NIN and BLU. They each share some gear too.
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    I'm pretty sure SE realises it's not enough. They've indicated that they want to give us more, but there is some kind of technical issue - most likely inventory data space.
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    While I understand there are technical issues preventing them from letting us walk around with unlimited plates all the time, I wonder if it would be possible to tie extra plates to the dresser itself. Cap the player at x number of plates like now, but let us store more in the dresser and allow us to swap them in and out. That would let us have more plates but not overload whatever system currently limits them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    P.S. you forgot DRG, NIN and BLU. They each share some gear too.
    Uh, what? What gear does DRG share with any job? DRG doesn't share gear with any job. Also, the only gear NIN shares with any other job is ARR raid gear and BLU is always 20 levels behind (and can't wear caster endgame gear), so there is no reason that they require glamour plates. I repeat: The intention was, to enable jobs with endgame gear that share their gear to have different glamours, without having to re-glamour everything manually on every job change.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I'm pretty sure SE realises it's not enough. They've indicated that they want to give us more, but there is some kind of technical issue - most likely inventory data space.
    Did they? When did they? The last time I heard them talking about giving us more glamour plates was before Shadowbringers and since that increase there was no word about it anymore. Can you give me a source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    While I understand there are technical issues preventing them from letting us walk around with unlimited plates all the time, I wonder if it would be possible to tie extra plates to the dresser itself. Cap the player at x number of plates like now, but let us store more in the dresser and allow us to swap them in and out. That would let us have more plates but not overload whatever system currently limits them.
    This is just a band-aid, but this would already help a LOT!
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Accessories are shared even at end game.

    Also, endgame gear glamour is not the only thing glamour plates are useful for. Why only request 26 plates when you actually need at least 29 to cover every job/class? That's just silly. Or are you suggesting that the extra glamour plates are only needed for people with all jobs at level 80 with only endgame gear equipped?
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 03-26-2020 at 11:29 AM. Reason: Edited for clarity because I was on a quick break at work and messed up

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    I'm suggesting that this was the main reason, glamour plates were made to begin with: Jobs with shared gear having different glamours. Around the end of Heavensward people were asking about a feature for exactly this all the time and the Glamour Dresser was SE's answer to this.

    And earring glamours don't really convince me, that DRG "share gear" with other jobs. I'm talking about stuff you actually see without having to zoom into the face of the person.
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    I'm not going to argue with you over this because this is something that SE absolutely should do for far more reasons than just partial end game gear sharing and I do not want an argument thread derailing a perfectly good suggestion. Round it up to 30 glamour plates for an even doubling of the current number and happiness will ensue.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 03-27-2020 at 06:54 AM.

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    My idea is to bring the Glamour Plates down to 5 per class rather than having a static 15. A little bit of extra work to manage for each class, surely, but I feel this would be an effective compromise rather than just simply increasing the amount of plates available overall.
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    If I haven't used Superbolide and I'm below 15% then I've accepted my fate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainFishSticks View Post
    My idea is to bring the Glamour Plates down to 5 per class rather than having a static 15. A little bit of extra work to manage for each class, surely, but I feel this would be an effective compromise rather than just simply increasing the amount of plates available overall.
    Define "down" and "compromise" when you want to go from 15 to 5x26 = 130...
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