Thread: 5.3 Preliminary Patch Note

I don't understand the correlation between people thinking that their opinions are fact and also being incredibly uninformed about like... the entire game.

Like this man hadn't even done an alliance raid but he thinks he can figure out which mechs are garbage.

You haven't even seen mechanics.

Maybe before trying to define the best or worst ways people learn the person attempting to outline these rules shouldn't be entirely in the dark about the majority of the game they're referencing.

Originally Posted by Goji1639

I've played a lot of different video games in my life; ones with GOOD gameplay. There are certain basic rules they all follow, that all developers know.

MMORPG's are admittedly, consistently at the absolute bottom in terms of gameplay quality. The bar is set really low and you all expect very little, that much is apparent. It doesn't change the fact that when designing fights there are certain things you just don't do. Coincounters BS is one of those things. A mechanic that bad in a game where even decent gameplay is expected would be humiliating.

I just like the idea of FFXIV elevating itself a tiny bit by removing some of the design failures in old content. You people just fight this kind of change because I guess you don't know any better.

Or you just want easy predictable mechanics because that's all you can handle.

Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX

Or you just want easy predictable mechanics because that's all you can handle.

You got me; I'm still stuck on Coincounter. I'll probably never complete AV.

Coincounters BS mechanic is easy to handle; even for a new player. You just have to Youtube the fight before ever doing it. That's apparently the hallmark of a good MMO mechanic; if only other genres knew this secret to creating engaging gameplay for new players.

Originally Posted by Goji1639

You got me; I'm still stuck on Coincounter. I'll probably never complete AV.

Wouldn't be a surprise. Enlightened people who stand above the masses usually have other shortcomings.

Originally Posted by Goji1639

Coincounters BS mechanic is easy to handle; even for a new player. You just have to Youtube the fight before ever doing it. That's apparently the hallmark of a good MMO mechanic; if only other genres knew this secret to creating engaging gameplay for new players.

Or you go through the mechanic, die or survive, and now you know how to deal with it. No Youtube required. Simple boss design, but not bad by a longshot.

Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX

Wouldn't be a surprise. Enlightened people who stand above the masses usually have other shortcomings.


Or you go through the mechanic, die or survive, and now you know how to deal with it. No Youtube required. Simple boss design, but not bad by a longshot.

Youtube is required if you want to have a fair fight when you first encounter the boss. No way to read, react or adjust to it during the fight makes it a bad mechanic and a bad fight.

You all really need to try out some more gameplay oriented games. I feel like if this was anything other than an MMO community I wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Originally Posted by Goji1639

Youtube is required if you want to have a fair fight when you first encounter the boss. No way to read, react or adjust to it during the fight makes it a bad mechanic and a bad fight.

You all really need to try out some more gameplay oriented games. I feel like if this was anything other than an MMO community I wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Alright, King of Games Goji, what "more gameplay oriented games" that you play that have FF14 should be emulating when it comes to enemies advertising mechanics to make it fair to the New Player?