Thread: 5.3 Preliminary Patch Note

Originally Posted by Goji1639

Nothing wrong with AV being difficult. Honestly, the first room, the Malboros and the final boss have caused way more issues than Coincounter in my experience as well. Hell, they could buff literally everything else about AV and I'd have fun with it.

Don't confuse difficulty with shit design. Coincounter is changing because his mechanic is a garbage 1 hit kill with no telegraphs, not because he was some kind of impassable wall.

Don't confuse shit difficulty with designs that demand you learn. There's nothing good about a dungeon causing issues for the party for the sake of a "challenge", it just means the dungeon is bad and needs a rework beyond nerfing a boss only the worst players who refuse to do better have a problem with.

I mean, I'm still gonna hate Aurum Vale just because the place is so damn ugly, so it's a lateral move to me. Seriously, why did ARR need so many gray caves, and who thought that filling one of them with yellow gas and morbols was an improvement?

Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I mean, I'm still gonna hate Aurum Vale just because the place is so damn ugly, so it's a lateral move to me. Seriously, why did ARR need so many gray caves, and who thought that filling one of them with yellow gas and morbols was an improvement?

Though I actually like morbols, I agree on the design of the place. The middle area's okay if a bit bland, but the start and end make my eyes bleed. I actually rarely have issues finishing AV when it comes up in roulette but I just hate looking at the place.

Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I mean, I'm still gonna hate Aurum Vale just because the place is so damn ugly, so it's a lateral move to me. Seriously, why did ARR need so many gray caves, and who thought that filling one of them with yellow gas and morbols was an improvement?

Several of the ARR dungeons were actually modified 1.X dungeons. Pretty much all of the 1.X dungeons were cave tunnels and SE made the 2.0 dungeons by blocking off the various alternative paths between rooms. Sastasha, Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak, Cutter's Cry, Dzemael Darkhold, and Aurum Vale were all built this way.

Originally Posted by Gula

I believe they're specifically referring to the aesthetics. The ARR dungeons are all terribly dreary and ugly places. Like the actual horror hole known as Haukke Manor.

The aesthetics for those dungeons were inherited from how they were created. SE built most of the 1.X dungeons by assembling a bunch of generic cave tunnel and cave room pieces and then decorating them with various door, wall and object sets. You are in several cases going through copies of the exact same room with different furniture.

Originally Posted by PeppermintBrown

Though I actually like morbols, I agree on the design of the place. The middle area's okay if a bit bland, but the start and end make my eyes bleed. I actually rarely have issues finishing AV when it comes up in roulette but I just hate looking at the place.

All that green and mustard yellow is a sin.

At least the crafted plants from Aurum Vale look nice when you put them in a normal garden. There's a pretty ground cover and a large bush with blossom-buds all over it. Much better than Toto-Rak's neon carnivorous things.

Originally Posted by Krotoan

When you think of bad smells (I.E. "bad breath") what colors come to mind?

I don't think of bad smells at all lol it absolutely makes sense, I just think it's really ugly. Which is the point I suppose, that it looks gross and smelly.