Thread: 5.3 Preliminary Patch Note

Originally Posted by Yuella

All they need to do is add a guildhest where you fight a cyclops with AoE indicator. And you need to clear this guildhest to queue for Aurum Vale.

Or they can just give Coincounter the AoE indicator. Seeing as almost every other Cyclops after that has them.
It makes no sense to make the first Cyclops you encounter the most difficult one, especially as this is level 47 and considered very early content at this point.

Originally Posted by Esmoire

Souls series is like one of the worst game series people could choose to try to highlight the idea of a telegraphed combat system or something you should avoid if you don't like the non-orange-marker attacks in FFXIV.

Yes, I do agree, and welcome, encounters in FFXIV where things don't have big ugly orange markers giving you 10 yrs to move out of danger's way.

Yes, for basically almost as long as there has been gaming, we have had stuff where you just have to read some kind of sign and respond. Often with patterns and observation. It's PUNCH OUT.

But please don't use a renowned action series with (for the most part) clean and tight animations and all kinds of super technical stuff like animation-interrupting invul on demand with a super well-tuned gauge denoting your usage anywhere near the absolute disaster that is FFXIV with its netcode, sloppy hitbox sizes, and mixed-and-matched telegraph systems (where attacks often deal damage well before or after the actual attacking part of the animation ended). Don't put them in same paragraph. Don't put them on the same page of the forum. Don't put them in the same essay. Don't even put them in the same book. Souls series deserves better than that.

I agreed with your post.. but wish more people used Devil May Cry as an example more than souls. Devil is such a better action game. IMHO. I hate how slow soul games are. It's like coming from any sonic game to I dunno... Snails play. It's HORRIBLE T.T

Originally Posted by Seraphor

Or they can just give Coincounter the AoE indicator. Seeing as almost every other Cyclops after that has them.
It makes no sense to make the first Cyclops you encounter the most difficult one, especially as this is level 47 and considered very early content at this point.

The most notable cyclops to me (aside from coincounter) is the guy from The Twinning who doesn't have an AoE indicator either.

Also like... who cares? It's not as if death in this game has any real consequences. Teaching people a mechanic by having it kill them just really drives home the point that they need to be alert to what's going on around them.

Let me be clear - I don't really care about them adding indicators to a random dungeon boss, it's all good, but to say that OHKO as a learning tool is bad is just... not smart.

Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare

The most notable cyclops to me (aside from coincounter) is the guy from The Twinning who doesn't have an AoE indicator either.

Are you thinking of Anamnesis, the undersea level? There's no cyclops in the Twinning that I can remember.

And if that is what you're thinking of, he does have last-second markers so you can learn to connect the attack names with their exact area of effect. That could be all that's being added here.

Originally Posted by Iscah

Are you thinking of Anamnesis, the undersea level? There's no cyclops in the Twinning that I can remember.

There are some minotaur trash mobs that use similar attacks.

Originally Posted by MrThinker

True, guildhests should have been the tutorials to group content. Sadly, the battle content team have all but abandoned guildhests (due to lack of player interest).

Guildhests start with giving bad advice ("Have your non-tank pull!").

Also, out of curiosity, with all the comments on Coincounter's one-hit kill, what are people opinions on, say... Behemoth and Ancient Flare in LotA? You know, those one hit kill no marker things you have to watch the cast bars on?

Originally Posted by Iscah

Are you thinking of Anamnesis, the undersea level? There's no cyclops in the Twinning that I can remember.

And if that is what you're thinking of, he does have last-second markers so you can learn to connect the attack names with their exact area of effect. That could be all that's being added here.

Mollusk was right, it's a minotaur.

Second trash pack I believe?

Originally Posted by Ilenya

Guildhests start with giving bad advice ("Have your non-tank pull!").

Also, out of curiosity, with all the comments on Coincounter's one-hit kill, what are people opinions on, say... Behemoth and Ancient Flare in LotA? You know, those one hit kill no marker things you have to watch the cast bars on?

Well that's 3 levels later so clearly like... huge difference there.