Thread: 5.3 Preliminary Patch Note

I wonder if the praise for AV in of itself is a bit hyperbolic in response to criticism. Even when played well by people who understand it, is it that great? There's a lot I don't like about it. It's entirely subjective but it's aesthetically displeasing and dull, and the few seconds of music is ehhhh. The "right" thing to do for the first room is basically to hug the left side and ignore as many of the enemies as possible... The ones you fight include ranged enemies where the corner leading up to it is irritatingly rounded meaning LOSing them is clumsy, often meaning it's batter to just run backwards as the tank or press into the boss room with them. It's more of a nuisance than anything fun.

Then you get to the boss... I hate basically anything that involves clicking and channeling something in battle. It's clumsy. To its credit, I appreciate the little design decision of being able to choose between killing the morbol pods, or letting them bloom for more XP. It means that the rest of the dungeon is okayish (love the Coincounter honestly). All in all not the worst dungeon (hi Copperbell), but far from being a good dungeon.

Even compared to ARR standards, there's way better dungeons like Wanderer's Palace or Stone Vigil, the latter which IMO is a better dungeon at offering choice, having a good aesthetic, and teaching new players.

Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

That depends on your definition I guess.


They aren't untelegraphed though. He has a cast bar and also raises his arm above his head and waves it around.

They all have telegraphs. Just because you don't understand them doesn't mean they don't exist.

A telegraph has to indicate what's coming so you can react appropriately. Nothing in the buildup indicates that he's about to do a 360 degree attack. It's literally a situation where you have no idea what it is until after you're hit by it; so it's not telegraphed.

If something that isn't telegraphed also kills you in 1 hit then that's crap design. Basically a throwback to the broken designs of the 8-bit days before developers really knew how to balance boss encounters.

Originally Posted by Goji1639

A telegraph has to indicate what's coming so you can react appropriately. Nothing in the buildup indicates that he's about to do a 360 degree attack. It's literally a situation where you have no idea what it is until after you're hit by it; so it's not telegraphed.

If something that isn't telegraphed also kills you in 1 hit then that's crap design. Basically a throwback to the broken designs of the 8-bit days before developers really knew how to balance boss encounters.

You must never have played a souls game.

Originally Posted by Goji1639

I've played some. I'll even share my PSN Profile with you.

https://psnprofiles.com/Hedorah1971

Basically every attack is telegraphed by the animation hitbox. Those animated telegraphs only give you fractions of a second to respond to them sometimes, but souls gives you tons of iframes on your dodge animations to account for that. Also, 1 hit kills generally don't happen unless you're extremely underleveled. Many attacks are designed to take a specific percentage of your health to purposely avoid killing you in 1 hit.

Yes, and you don't know what the moves are until they do them once. Some are quite obscure, and may will kill you in one hit. Or combo into death with another ability.