Thread: 5.3 Preliminary Patch Note

Originally Posted by WaxSw

A death actually is the BEST way to teach someone, if they only get a vuln up/damage down and damage there is a higher chance of them thinking "Well no biggie I can keep going" a death otherwise stops your gameplay and makes you really think about what happened

A death only stops gameplay if it wipes the group, and a DPS dying to coincounter probably won't result in a wipe. If you nearly die you can take note and adjust when you see the attack again. If you actually die you just alt tab out and play around online until the rest of the group finishes the fight.

Originally Posted by Goji1639

I think coincounter is a good change.

Those attacks really only screwed over melee DPS, and a 360 instant kill that isn't telegraphed is just dumb. Any mechanic that gives you no opportunity to react without prior knowledge, and basically instant kills you is BS. It isn't some grand learning experience for new players; it's just an annoying unavoidable death to a mechanic they're not likely to see in any future content.

Melee DPS are the ones who have total control over whether they live or die. How the heck does it "screw over melee DPS" when you can literally just press your stun button in-between GCDs? Don't blame the game for the player's incompetence.

Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty

Melee DPS are the ones who have total control over whether they live or die. How the heck does it "screw over melee DPS" when you can literally just press your stun button in-between GCDs? Don't blame the game for the player's incompetence.

It isn't a telegraphed attack, so how does a new player know which attack they need to use their stun on? It screws melee DPS because it's a 360 degree instant kill that does nothing to inform melee DPS that it's a 360 degree instant kill.

Pretend an attack that instant killed everyone on the left side of the stage gave absolutely no visual indication that it was going to kill everyone on the left side of the stage. No markers; no "Left side xxxx" in the name of the attack; no conceivable way to know what's coming; just bam... everyone on the left is dead. Wouldn't that be a stupid, lazily designed, cheesy mechanic that exists solely to land a cheap death on new players?

Originally Posted by Goji1639

It isn't a telegraphed attack, so how does a new player know which attack they need to use their stun on? It screws melee DPS because it's a 360 degree instant kill that does nothing to inform melee DPS that it's a 360 degree instant kill.

Pretend an attack that instant killed everyone on the left side of the stage gave absolutely no visual indication that it was going to kill everyone on the left side of the stage. No markers; no "Left side xxxx" in the name of the attack; no conceivable way to know what's coming; just bam... everyone on the left is dead. Wouldn't that be a stupid, lazily designed, cheesy mechanic that exists solely to land a cheap death on new players?

Long castbar usually indicates a bad thing is about to happen.

First off what the crap is with them giving us the ability to change movies just to take it away... it reminds me of the "Devi's Advocate"

"...I swear for His own amusement, his own private, cosmic gag reel, He sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow. Ahaha. And while you're jumpin' from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughin' His sick, f*&kin' a$$ off! He's a tight-a$$! He's a SADIST!..."

And secondly I thought I read somewhere that the next stage of the the relic tool's were going to be released with this patch.. Did I miss that in the notes?

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