Possible market board exploit

[Halivel]

If anything, you don't even need a second service account, you can simply have an alt on a different server and a friend who is ready to pay few minutes for a trade between your main and alt character. That's it.

Also, the reason why we can't sell things on other servers is much likely the fact that retainers' names have to be unique inside a server so placing something for a sell on another one can seriously mess up things, rather than the wish to prevent some kind of economic harassment because uhm... it's not like bots exist just on one server. If cross-server selling was available, nothing would've changed really just as almost nothing really changed in economics when they released cross-world visits in general: there are still servers whose prices are higher, and there are still people who aren't interested in jumping from server to server in order to buy cheapest version so they just buy it on their home world for whatever price listed.

[MsQi]

Can you trade with characters from other servers? If the game allows it and having multiple account is allowed I don't think that would be considered an exploit. I can't imagine it would be unforseen.

[Halivel]

Can you trade with characters from other servers? If the game allows it and having multiple account is allowed I don't think that would be considered an exploit. I can't imagine it would be unforseen.

You can. You can't send mails trough Moogle Post, but Trade function is perfectly working as long as you both are staying right next to each other.

[Auriya]

You can have as many accounts as you like and trade items from one account to another if you like. Or having a group of friends jumping from server to server buying up mats and other stuff to trade with each other to craft cheaper or to just resell. It already exists in big style!
Also when you look at the Market Boards you can see the same crafter name on every server (at least on the Light Datacenter). I guess they do the same – and according to SE it's not against their TOS.

Like or not: according to SE it's not against their TOS but a game feature you can use, so more players should actually group up with their friends to buy and sell crafts and other stuff (bought from different servers within your datacenter), since SE directly encourages it.

[Skivvy]

You can. You can't send mails trough Moogle Post, but Trade function is perfectly working as long as you both are staying right next to each other.

I looked right over this option which is faaaar simpler. lol. I was thinking char #1 would list super low on the MB, char #2 would buy it and relist on their world at a higher price. But even with the direct trading, I don't really see how to avoid that without punishing the players for something that probably (hopefully?) isn't too huge of a thing.

[Awha]

A certain poster has shown me the light to using multiple service accounts. While I do have any plots on my second account demo timer I do craft items on my main and trade them to alts on the second account so I can sell various items on different servers.

I do not see much harm since I am one person and cannot really craft at tye volume required to truly crash a market. I can influence the price to a large degree.

[Barraind]

Then why even have something in place to "prevent" players to sell on other servers

Because game code is weird and your retainers, the only way to sell stuff, are tied to your home world and cant be accessed, or even indexed (you cant check to see what you have stored on them), while world visiting.

The thing stopping you from selling on another server is that the game physically cant let you.


14's server architecture is weird, I'm honestly amazed we can send tells cross server with what we CANT do when it comes to how instances and x-world are handled, especially since they had to add specific cross-world linkshells, and had to limit the size on them due to the way they store server.character.

[Jojoya]

Correct me if im wrong but the whole reason behind not allowing players to sell items on other servers is so that players and RMT bots cant destroy markets.

That is not correct. SE had intended to create a global marketboard system that would allow all listed items on any world in a data center to be viewed from all marketboards in that data center but ran into technical issues they couldn't solve. They still hope to find a way to solve the technical difficulties.

They want market prices to get stabilized across all worlds. If they didn't, they wouldn't let players buy items while using world visit or allow them to trade with cross world players.

[Ranaku]

RMT bots destroyed markets since the dawn of time, nothing new and they always find a way.

Also am i the only one who can't see the logic behind this? A bot selling stuff directly without redirecting his stuff to where the price is highest is so much more lucrative since it's easier since such behaivior needs a person behind it which is against the sole reason why botting in t he first place also such a strategy would just waste bots that just farm and then you have a bot that just sell and this one also has only limited selling places so you have 40 places with 2 retainers which are full in no time and the other bots get stuck, wouldn't it be better if every bot just sells on his own world and spams that market there? Can't imagine that botters do all the extra work just to crash markets where they get the most gil.

I don't have any idea how bots work or how easy it would be but i can't imagine that programming a bot that does trading and farming and selling all on his own would be an easy thing to do.

[Gothicshark]

Correct me if im wrong but the whole reason behind not allowing players to sell items on other servers is so that players and RMT bots cant destroy markets.

False, it's so real money traders have to have a character on a paid account on the server to transfer gil to players who buy gil. It's to slow them down, make it easier to track both the buyer and seller.

So is it allowed or an unforeseen exploit for a player to have two services accounts, use one account to craft all their items, trade those items to another character of the second service account that lives on another server, and put those items up on the market board? Or does Square not care because they make more money off the player running two accounts and multiple retainers?

Most players with multiple accounts are not in the RMT business, they are usually people who spend too much time online, and have enough cash to pay for multiple accounts. I personally had 12 accounts going at once in WOW, so I could basically run some raids solo, using multibox. Also since I friended my alt accounts, I got all the friend rewards. I'm half tempted to do that here. Not for the raids, but for the friend rewards.