Possible market board exploit

[Nineball]

Correct me if im wrong but the whole reason behind not allowing players to sell items on other servers is so that players and RMT bots cant destroy markets.

So is it allowed or an unforeseen exploit for a player to have two services accounts, use one account to craft all their items, trade those items to another character of the second service account that lives on another server, and put those items up on the market board? Or does Square not care because they make more money off the player running two accounts and multiple retainers?

[Arillyn]

I don't think that's exploiting personally. If someone wants to have two service accounts (and people do for various reasons). I will say this though, I have bought something on another server and then decided I didn't want it afterall and sold it on my own server because... that's the only place I can sell it.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

No, the reason people can't sell on other servers is simple. Your retainers are tied to your home world.

This isn't an exploit.

[Skivvy]

I personally don't consider buying an item from a cheaper server and then reselling on your higher-priced server by itself to be a bad thing. It's kind of like buying an item from NPC and reselling high. If someone's willing to put in the time and legwork, kudos on whatever profit they make.

I imagine SE had thought of this possibility when deciding whether or not to allow access to MBs using the world-visit system. So assuming they are OK with the situation above, outside of their normal bot/RMT bans, how would you expect SE to deal with this particular situation? I feel that even if RMT is ruining particular markets, it's still far more beneficial to allow players to the cross-world market boards for purchses.

I'm not trying to say the situation doesn't exist or isn't bad (honestly, I've not noticed it, but I've also not been playing much lately..so who knows!). RMT in general screws with prices, but they also go hand-in-hand with MMOs. They will always be a thing, and it seems they always have the upper hand.

[Nineball]

No, the reason people can't sell on other servers is simple. Your retainers are tied to your home world.

This isn't an exploit.

Then why even have something in place to "prevent" players to sell on other servers if all you need to do and just have another service account and trade amongst accounts? Also i thought retainers are tied to your character (i.e. i create another character on the same server and hire a retainer, its an entirely new retainer)

[Nineball]

I personally don't consider buying an item from a cheaper server and then reselling on your higher-priced server by itself to be a bad thing. It's kind of like buying an item from NPC and reselling high. If someone's willing to put in the time and legwork, kudos on whatever profit they make.

I imagine SE had thought of this possibility when deciding whether or not to allow access to MBs using the world-visit system. So assuming they are OK with the situation above, outside of their normal bot/RMT bans, how would you expect SE to deal with this particular situation? I feel that even if RMT is ruining particular markets, it's still far more beneficial to allow players to the cross-world market boards for purchses.

I'm not trying to say the situation doesn't exist or isn't bad (honestly, I've not noticed it, but I've also not been playing much lately..so who knows!). RMT in general screws with prices, but they also go hand-in-hand with MMOs. They will always be a thing, and it seems they always have the upper hand.

My suggestion would be if the item was crafted by a player on one server it cant be sold on the MB of another server. Kind of like how they do with gear and spiritbonding.

[Arillyn]

Then why even have something in place to "prevent" players to sell on other servers if all you need to do and just have another service account and trade amongst accounts? Also i thought retainers are tied to your character (i.e. i create another character on the same server and hire a retainer, its an entirely new retainer)

SE was (and I think still) planning on letting us buy AND sell across the data center. They just haven't figured out how to do that yet so right now you can only sell on your own server because like stated above, the retainer is made and tied to the server your character is on. The game can't have two retainers named the same thing on one server. So if on all worlds on a data center there is a retainer named "Apple", that would muck it all up right now for selling things across the data center.

Also, no I don't need them restricting me selling something I bought off another world's MB. Why do you want that restricted? Because someone is undercutting you? Or is it some other reason?

[Skivvy]

My suggestion would be if the item was crafted by a player on one server it cant be sold on the MB of another server. Kind of like how they do with gear and spiritbonding.

I still feel that would be far more harmful to legit players. Bit of cutting off your nose to spite your face. As mentioned here already, it would be rather punishing if you do buy some crafted gear abroad, decide you no longer want it for whatever reason, but now you're stuck it simply because you bought it from another server.

[Yshtola]

Also i thought retainers are tied to your character (i.e. i create another character on the same server and hire a retainer, its an entirely new retainer)

You thought wrong.

/end thread

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Then why even have something in place to "prevent" players to sell on other servers if all you need to do and just have another service account and trade amongst accounts? Also i thought retainers are tied to your character (i.e. i create another character on the same server and hire a retainer, its an entirely new retainer)

Yes, but retainers are not cross world. They are tied to your characters home world.