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    ItMe's Avatar
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    I don't think we need ARR raids in their own roulette.

    We just need the roulette's min iLv to be the iLv requirement of the highest raid you have available on your current job so that people can't force a CT raid every time they queue.
    That's an interesting idea... I'm liking it the more I think about it.
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    Imo we lack an actual story roulett anyways that really includes ALL story dungeons, trials and raids. There should be smt else then Mentor to fill the ques...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Imo we lack an actual story roulett anyways that really includes ALL story dungeons, trials and raids. There should be smt else then Mentor to fill the ques...
    Unless the story suddenly needed EXs or Savage, a single roulette for story related instances is both redundant and arguably ridden with issues wereit be added. People already ditch half the MSQ roulette for not being the other, and Leveling dungeons still has three trap instances that waste the bonus by not giving as much xp as the average dungeon. And those were roulettes where the number of people required are consistent. Adding most the Leveling dungeons, about half of the capped dungeons, most of the trials that aren't WT, Auspices or Weyelt and CTwould just be asking for people to quit when it isn't what they wanted to do (like say Auamrot, Steps of Faith, CT, both MSQ dungeons), just like Lol!Mentor Roulette.

    Put simply if the content is any way difficult and its on a roueltte with easier content, people WILL leave unless the rewards are worth the effort. Having a roulette with that broad a scope will only encourage this.
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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Imo we lack an actual story roulett anyways that really includes ALL story dungeons, trials and raids. There should be smt else then Mentor to fill the ques...
    It would be nice to have a roulette that includes all 'story required' duties, I would definitely do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Put simply if the content is any way difficult and its on a roueltte with easier content, people WILL leave unless the rewards are worth the effort. Having a roulette with that broad a scope will only encourage this.
    People leave queues already when they get something they don't want (I've seen Dun Scaith get this treatment a lot for reasons I don't understand), and those roulettes are still in the game. Mentor roulette is still there, and it encompasses more duties and people still leave it if they get an EX trial or something. So if that roulette remains in the game, why can't a story roulette one be added? I'd queue for it and wouldn't leave no matter what I got because I actually enjoy playing the game and don't just do it for rewards. And I think more people feel that way than the way you described, or there would be way more people leaving duties to a point that it would be a widespread problem.
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    Wouldn't mind them adding the CT raids into the MSQ Roulette to be honest. It'd be nice to mix that up although they'd probably need adjust the cut scenes to be non skip-able like they have for the current ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenBroadaxe View Post
    Wouldn't mind them adding the CT raids into the MSQ Roulette to be honest. It'd be nice to mix that up although they'd probably need adjust the cut scenes to be non skip-able like they have for the current ones.
    They can't anymore, because the CT raids only have one tank against the MSQ having two. Ironically, if CT hadn't been changed, this could have worked, but it was moved to 1/2/5 to match up with the rest of the 24-man better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    . The roulette rewards are for people willing to fill in 'wherever is needed most', and oftentimes that just happens to be Crystal Tower. Anyone who wants to run a different set of alliance raids can just queue up for them specifically.
    If only this happened I would have 0 complaints about this, but I've had friends at prime time wait more than five hours prior to the Mog Event and people then leave abruptly cause it wasn't ARR, so clearly that doesn't work as intended.
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    Introduce maximum item levels for each raid and that could fix the issue. I'm not saying the max ilvl should be absolute lowest that the duty requires, it can be 20-30 levels higher, but it should be low enough that mechanics matter to some extent and the duty can't just be face rolled. In theory LotA should be (or close to) as challenging as WoD and Void Ark as much as Dun Scaith, meaning there world be little reason to purposely manipulate ilvl before queuing if you know you have to actually make a decent effort for the rewards.

    Other than that, I think someone said adding it to a special MSQ roulette might be the easiest way seeing as Crystal Tower will be a requirement to progress anyway. Not so sure about having forced cutscenes for those raids as well but if the time matches the rewards then I guess so.
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    Last edited by Kurando; 08-06-2020 at 05:34 AM. Reason: Meant max ilvl

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    Sabrenn Zaeis
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    I know it being called roulette defeats the purpose but, I want a duty blacklist so that we don't queue in to stuff we don't want.

    edit: maybe have a limit to it so you can't blacklist more than 1 or 2 duties and so can't force it to only queue for 1 duty. Maybe also not allow it for MSQ roulette since there's only 2.
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    Last edited by Sabrenn; 08-06-2020 at 06:43 PM.

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    Main Scenario Raids Roulette or Expert Alliance Raids shouldnt be too hard to ask . i dont wanna que for something that is always the same. but also alot of p are doing ivalice for thier relics and junk and those may rival crystal tower
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