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  1. #41
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Ishgardian Elezen are technically a separate clan, but most of them just reuse assets from Wildwood and Duskwight Elezen.
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  2. #42
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Machinists still use aether. Quoting from Encyclopedia Eorzea:



    (Incidentally, the "lighting" thing is in the the book. I assume it's a typo and intended to be "lightning".)
    The lunch box is so we who use aether can use Magitech, Garleans use a different method of collecting, but both Grunbreaker and Machists use Magitech. The only reason why I doubt the Gunbreaker class as we know it can be used by Garleans is the high amount of Aether used in the shells. While for Machinists, Garleans just need to stuff a lala in the lunchbox to do the same thing.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Ishgardian Elezen are technically a separate clan, but most of them just reuse assets from Wildwood and Duskwight Elezen.
    Technically yes, but they come from the same ancestry as all Eorzean Elezen, and that would be Gelmorra.
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  4. #44
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    Larrian Gogoan
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    For miqote, the 3rd clan could be CATsune!

    ... Get it? Kitsune, Catsune?

    ...

    That was terrible. Sorry about that! ;p

    But seriously, I'm all for a new clan for the race. More customisation is always welcome. I'd personally like to see more visual differences between clans, akin to hour's midlander and highlander. Perhaps for Lalafell the 3rd clan could be of stocker build, being similar to how dwarves are shown in other games? I don't know. Just more customisation please!
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  5. #45
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    Actually no. If they are actually a Garlean, with the third eye, they have 0 ability to manipulate aether. There are however a lot of Hyurs in the empire who are not of the Garlean ancestry, which is how they have casters at all. Strangely there are some Hyurs with Garlean ancestry, they are unable to use aether, and have no visible third eye.
    The Lorebook describes it as:

    "Garleans have little inborn ability to manipulate their body's aether, however, and thus the arcane arts have ever eluded all but a few."

    It is rare, but not unheard of, for members of the Garlean race to be able to use magic.
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  6. #46
    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    The Lorebook describes it as:

    "Garleans have little inborn ability to manipulate their body's aether, however, and thus the arcane arts have ever eluded all but a few."

    It is rare, but not unheard of, for members of the Garlean race to be able to use magic.
    your highlighting those words doesn't mean pureblooded Garleans have a small chance to manipulate aether. It means using Magitech they might be able to bypass their lack of ability with aetherial manipulation and maybe possibly give themselves something like the Echo or even the abilities of the Ascians. This doesn't mean a 1 in 10000000 chance of an Arcanist.


    p.s. Putting my reply into spoilers, because duh, spoilers to shadowbringers content.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    your highlighting those words doesn't mean pureblooded Garleans have a small chance to manipulate aether. It means using Magitech they might be able to bypass their lack of ability with aetherial manipulation and maybe possibly give themselves something like the Echo or even the abilities of the Ascians. This doesn't mean a 1 in 10000000 chance of an Arcanist.


    p.s. Putting my reply into spoilers, because duh, spoilers to shadowbringers content.
    I don't understand how you've arrived at the conclusion that the passage is talking about Magitek. It specifically mentions inborn ability to manipulate the bodies aether.

    Magitek isn't something you're born with. It also generally uses Ceruleum as fuel, rather than the bodies own aether.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 08-05-2020 at 07:41 PM.

  8. #48
    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    I don't understand how you've arrived at the conclusion that the passage is talking about Magitek. It's specifically mentions inborn ability to manipulate the bodies aether.

    Magitek isn't something you're born with. It also generally uses Ceruleum as fuel, rather than the bodies own aether.
    my reply is in spiolers again, because I am hitting 5.2 spoilers on this.

    The statement you quote is open-ended so the writers of the game have wiggle room. However, instead of using the wiggle room, they used magitech to build a device that modified a living body so that it could use the Echo, or something of that nature, the by-product of that research allowed the first Prince Zenos yae Galvus to transcend to the approximation of an ascian. "however, and thus the arcane arts have ever eluded all but a few." the few who have, Solus zos Galvus, an Ascian pretending to be a Garlean, and Zenos, an artificially Transcended person.
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  9. #49
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Unless they add new clans like the Midlander/Highlander split (which is doubtful because that means new PC models to fit gear onto etc), I'd honestly rather just expand the customization options for the clans we have now, rather than adding on new ones. But i certainly wouldn't complain if we did get new clans.
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    I think it could work from a gameplay perspective (although it'd be nice to finish Hrothgar and Viera in terms of gender and head gear). I'm unsure about the lore though? It seems everything has been written to have some kind of duality so adding a third clan out of the blue might be weird (from that lore perspective only, mind you).

    I understand that what WoW did with allied races kind of worked because there wasn't that "exclusive duality" to begin with.
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