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    Terin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    I like it, but I think for some races they'd really have to stretch to come up with new clans so I'd rather just see the character creator expanded. Unless they were okay with only doing extra ones for the races where it makes sense.
    I would honestly be okay with that. And really, I don't think it's like anyone here is DEMANDING new Clans anyways -- it's just kind of a fun idea!

    As others said, it would surely be less work than adding entirely new races (though not to say it isn't still a lot of work). But it could absolutely be a cool way of fleshing out some new cultures, adding some new cosmetic elements and the like.

    Like I said, for me the biggest thing would just be that it would be great to have unique "basic animations" (standing, walking, running, and sprinting) for each Clan. Doesn't have to be dramatic, just enough to give them a touch of personality. I honestly kind of hate the way the Au Ra males stand, so prim and proper, which feels strange for a member of the Xaela. But hey, they could reserve that sort of thing purely for the NEW clans, whatever they might be, whenever they might be.

    Also, anyone else have any other ideas for potential Clans?

    Something I thought could be cool for Roegadyns, is maybe a sort of "Tengu/Oni" clan, based loosely on Japanese folklore (obvious ties to Gosetsu), but in addition to more "human" skin tones, maybe either bright-red skin tones?
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    In a perfect world all races would get the Hyur treatment where each clan is actually different from each other, rather than just being color swaps with very minor differences, but that's highly unlikely, if not outright impossible for XIV. Maybe for a next mmo if/when they do one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    I'd honestly would rather them flesh out the already existing clans than try to wedge some new thing into the system (in a lot of cases where there is no room).

    Plus, they already have two races they need to finish up to the standard of every other race.

    (Also I think the game's story would have to bend over backwards to allow a garlean warrior of light atm. We'll see how things develop)
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    Larrian Gogoan
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    For miqote, the 3rd clan could be CATsune!

    ... Get it? Kitsune, Catsune?

    ...

    That was terrible. Sorry about that! ;p

    But seriously, I'm all for a new clan for the race. More customisation is always welcome. I'd personally like to see more visual differences between clans, akin to hour's midlander and highlander. Perhaps for Lalafell the 3rd clan could be of stocker build, being similar to how dwarves are shown in other games? I don't know. Just more customisation please!
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    Garleans are their own race though - Thats why they have the third eye on their foreheads. Any Hyuran soliders you see are conscripts from conquered territories so it would make no sense for a clan to be "Garlean"

    Otherwise...No, i would not want to see another clan being added. Why? Because the character creation is already so limited as it is, and i would wish to see them expand upon the current system before adding just another clan that would amount to little more than a slight colour variant, not to mention the lore implications.
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    Last edited by VenKitsune; 08-14-2020 at 03:10 PM.
    2.0 Veteran from 2013. Just looking to be helpful. DRK is Love, DRK is life.

    (Ignore the levels on my character card, the tool i used to make it hasn't been updated for 4.0)

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    Garleans are their own race though - Thats why they have the third eye on their foreheads. Any Hyuran soliders you see are conscripts from conquered territories so it would make no sense for a clan to be "Garlean"

    Otherwise...No, i would not want to see another clan being added. Why? Because the character creation is already so limited as it is, and i would wish to see them expand upon the current system before adding just another clan that would amount to little more than a slight colour variant, not to mention the lore implications.
    Interesting point on the Garleans. I'd always assumed they were just kind of a "pureblood/special breed of Hyur", but I suppose even Gosetsu appears human to me, even though he's Roegadyn. I suppose in a way, most of the races are all "kind of human" (save for Hrothgar now), so it's a tricky line to tow.

    An alternative Hyur clan might be to retroactively add a "Doman" clan? Maybe they're a touch taller than Midlanders and more lean (while still generally slender)? I was definitely surprised when I arrived, and all of the Hyur basically looked and spoke the same as Hyur from Eorzea. I could see giving them sharper, more "serious-looking" features, that might make kind of a cool new tribe.

    Either that, or maybe use it as an opportunity to introduce a a totally new region, maybe with more Middle-Eastern or African features? Taller than Midlanders, more slender than Highlanders?
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    Garleans are a distinct race from Hyurs, not a clan. Plus they'd have to work around Garleans being unable to manipulate aether; otherwise they literally can't use any existing player job.

    Maybe Doman Hyur instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Garleans are a distinct race from Hyurs, not a clan. Plus they'd have to work around Garleans being unable to manipulate aether; otherwise they literally can't use any existing player job.

    Maybe Doman Hyur instead?
    Othardian hyur is just hyur tho. ._.
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Garleans are a distinct race from Hyurs, not a clan. Plus they'd have to work around Garleans being unable to manipulate aether; otherwise they literally can't use any existing player job.
    They're able to manipulate aether, it's just rare. Though the Warrior of Light/Darkness is already many levels of special so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch. The game also draws a clear distinction between regular Garleans and Imperial Garleans. We frequently see major characters team up with the former and working with the latter is something that has happened at least once in the form of Regula van Hydrus.

    With that said, adding a third eye glamour would be enough for many of those who choose to role-play Garleans.
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    They're able to manipulate aether, it's just rare.
    Actually no. If they are actually a Garlean, with the third eye, they have 0 ability to manipulate aether. There are however a lot of Hyurs in the empire who are not of the Garlean ancestry, which is how they have casters at all. Strangely there are some Hyurs with Garlean ancestry, they are unable to use aether, and have no visible third eye.
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    Last edited by Gothicshark; 08-05-2020 at 07:54 AM.

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