(5.0 Spoilers) Who is Emet talking about in this scene?

[Cereza]

It was brought up in a conversation, that the dialog of Emet-Selch as sees us heading towards Il Mheg in regards to “Then again, with a soul such as that...” he is actually talking about Ryne/Minfillia. It was said in French and Japanese that it’s obvious he is using gendered terms and pronouns to the person he’s referring to (she/her regardless of the WoLs gender). I had always been under the impression given his abilities to distinguish souls, that he was talking about the WoL. Can anyone confirm this? It makes me wonder if I’d been interpreting other dialog the wrong way.

[Rocl]

Oh, that's interesting... I'm by no means fluent in French but...

FRENCH TEXT DUMP

(soupire)... Et moi qui croyais Vauthry trop indolent pour mobiliser son armée...
Tout sera à refaire si une guerre éclate à cause de ces cha-mail-le-ries.
L'exarque du Cristal... Comment s'est-il débrouillé pour faire venir (l'héroïne\le héros) du monde primitif?
Ici aussi, nous allons devoir nous coltiner (cette empêcheuse\cet empêcheur) de tourner en rond!?
(soupire)...
Et comme si ça ne suffisait pas, la porteuse de cette âme l'accompagne.
Hum, qui sait? Ce revirement de situation pourrait nous offrir une alternative à l'af-fron-te-ment.

And using my rudimentary skills and google translate it comes down to basically:

[sigh] I thought Vauthry was too lazy to mobilize his army. Everything will have to be redone if he causes a war because of this bickering. How did the Crystal Exarch bring the Hero (or Heroine!) of the Source here? Am I going to have to distract this nuisance (gendered) here too!? [sigh] And if that wasn't enough... the carrier of this soul accompanies them. ...Who knows, maybe this could be used to avoid a confrontation...

Very heavily paraphrased, but the "carrier of this soul" gender doesn't change in French, and there's at least 2 instances of gendering for the WOL in his speech. One of which is then followed up with the "carrier of this soul" accompanying the gendered WOL... so, yeah they seem to be separate. Not to mention "la porteuse" is definitely a female carrier of the soul—and there's no flag to change it to male. I would bet money that the French script is saying the soul he's interested in is Minfilia's.

Disclaimer: It's been years since I've done anything with French.

For good measure I'll add German, English, and Japanese here too:
ENGLISH TEXT DUMP:

To think that mountain of indolence still had the energy to unleash his hounds...
Even the most pointless of conflicts may alter a world's course... And now the plan has gone awry.
But how...? How did the so-called Crystal Exarch bring the hero of the Source to the First?
As if I didn't have enough on my hands already...
(SIGH)
Then again...with a soul such as that...
Mayhap there is another way. One which does not require bloodshed...

GERMAN TEXT DUMP:

Hach! Wer hätte gedacht, dass dieser Vauthry tatsächlich seine Truppen ausschicken würde!
Ein Krieg könnte meinen schönen Plan über den Haufen werfen. Ich werde mir etwas Neues überlegen müssen.
Und dann noch dieser Kristall-exarch. Wie hat er (die Heldin\den Helden) aus dem Ursprung überhaupt hierher gebracht?
Soll (sie\er) uns hier jetzt auch noch ins Handwerk pfuschen?
Hach ...
Obwohl ... ich wittere da ein gewaltiges Potenzial.
Wenn es wirklich so ist ... gibt es vielleicht doch noch einen Weg, das große Blutvergießen zu vermeiden.

JAPANESE TEXT DUMP:

ああ厭だ……。
ヴァウスリーに、軍を仕向けるほどのやる気が残っていたとは。
どんな馬鹿らしい争いであれ、戦が起きれば、世が動く。
まったく……これじゃ計画の練りなおしだ。
あいつ……水晶公、か。
いったいどうやって、原初世界の英雄を呼び寄せた？
あの英雄も、どれだけ私たちの邪魔をしたら気がすむんだ！
はぁ…
……しかも、あの魂の持ち主ときた。
ならば……。
殺し合う以外の道もある……か？

When a gender difference is present (only in German & French) it isn't attached to owner of the soul best I can tell.

[Cereza]

Man that leaves me so confused lol

[Rosenstrauch]

That is pretty bizarre. Off the top of my head, the only other time he even shows any interest in young Minfilia is in the lead-up to the return to Amh Araeng, wherein he endorses her decision.

[Rocl]

Man that leaves me so confused lol

I hope you mean regarding the actual script and not my post since I noticed an error in it pretty late, lol! (Me saying "carrier" isn't gendered, but it is; it's just always female regardless of the player's gender.)

[Cereza]

Ok so that would imply that yes, he is referring to Ryne? Don’t worry I confuse quite easily lol

[Cereza]

That’s why I thought it was weird too. like why would he make note of that...because it’s odd maybe? D:>

[Cereza]

The Japanese text looks to imply Emet is talking about the WoL? Like he brings them up and immediately goes..oh..it has their soul too, maybe we don’t have to kill each other?

[Rocl]

Ok so that would imply that yes, he is referring to Ryne? Don’t worry I confuse quite easily lol

There is no other reasonable explanation I can think of. The soul he's talking about here seems to be Minfilia's. Whoever's carrying the soul is feminine. Always. Who the Hero of the Source is varies by your character's gender.

That’s why I thought it was weird too. like why would he make note of that...because it’s odd maybe? D:>

My memory lately is pretty bad in regards to the narrative order of Shadowbringers! But it's entirely possible he's just once again pointing out that Source-Minfilia's soul is wholesale within Ryne... hence why he says "carrier of that soul." Minfilia's soul is certainly special enough to take note of having been the Word of the Mother, after all.

[Cereza]

There is no other reasonable explanation I can think of. The soul he's talking about here seems to be Minfilia's. Whoever's carrying the soul is feminine. Always. Who the Hero of the Source is varies by your character's gender.



My memory lately is pretty bad in regards to the narrative order of Shadowbringers! But it's entirely possible he's just once again pointing out that Source-Minfilia's soul is wholesale within Ryne... hence why he says "carrier of that soul." Minfilia's soul is certainly special enough to take note of having been the Word of the Mother, after all.

My confusion with that is, would Emet have even recognized Minfillias soul if he had never seen her before that point?

The reason I used to think he was talking about the WoL was because he would’ve seen ours before.