Healer opinion RDM rez

[Thmas]

As RDM main i enjoy being able to pop the quick rezs as needed. But in pug raids not sure what is expected vs healers desire. I also suck at dodging and targeting as im keyboard mostly player, so i have rez macro to priority walk the party. Should my macro say something like "rez check"?

[PondHollow]

It's fine that it exists. Healers wasting raises is a problem that has always been baked into 8 player parties, and RDMs have a solution for it, even if they risk participating it.

What works for now I think is the same thing that works when it's just two healers in a DF group - someone says "I'll get the first resurrection" when the instance starts. You can say that.

[NobleWinter]

If you're going to use a Rez priority macro and don't want to step on toes it's best to take the order you have in mind and reverse it. Healers are typically going to revive a cohealer first, tank second, and DPS last although there are always exceptions based on the situation. Wait for a healer to Rez first since that should be their gut reaction and if you are able to see that both healers have used swiftcast it's normally safe to start bringing people back up yourself. Just realize that you want to avoid letting one person get double and triple revives. It's a tremendous waste of mp across the board. No one should be mad about you trying to save the party though so just try to read the situation as best you can.

[Risvertasashi]

As RDM main i enjoy being able to pop the quick rezs as needed. But in pug raids not sure what is expected vs healers desire. I also suck at dodging and targeting as im keyboard mostly player, so i have rez macro to priority walk the party. Should my macro say something like "rez check"?

If you're with a static, work out a rez priority, and with VC you can check who might want to get the rez.

If not, well... you can maybe wait a few moments to see if anyone rezzes. For my part, personally, I always appreciate help rezzing, as I often spend swiftcast covering movement and weaving.

[ItMe]

In my experience the most useful Rez macros mainly tell others WHO you're rezzing.
If multiple people go down it stops 2 people from trying to rez the same one.

[Liam_Harper]

As healer in DF, I'll take the first swift-rez and if the RDM has the next Raise(s) sorted before Swift is back up, it's much appreciated. Think that's a good rule to follow. If you're feeling confident on Raises, you can say something like "I'll take the Raises" or "I'll take the first few", but otherwise Healer -> you is fine.

It always baffles me that co-healers never communicate in DF (even Savage PF) on Raise order. So many wasted swift-raises.

[Rilifane]

When I PUG on RdM there are three cases when I will definitely take resses and I always communicate it: if a healer is down, I ress them right away. If multiple people are down, I ress the remaining players after healer resses are out. If both healers are low on MP (below 4k is the threshold for me), I'll take the ress as soon as possible.
Yes, it's a dps loss for me and unless it's a really nasty emergency I won't break my melee combo for it either but from a healer perspective those cases are the most difficult to handle and could snowball into a wipe.
If your co heal is down you have to cover for them while they are down or locked in animation, they may not be able to get up right away or heal right away because of mechanics, they get up with zero additional resources and low MP. In this case it takes a lot of pressure from the remaining healer.
If multiple people are down you don't have enough SC raises to quickly save the run, so chain ress from RdM is the best option.
And if healers are below 4kish MP and take a ress, chances are high that they're forced to smack the boss with their weapon because they lack MP to cast.

All those cases obviously cost me dps but in terms of overall raid dps, they are still the best option.

[Side-Eye]

When I'm on RDM, my main priority for raise is the healer(s) .. outside of that, I'll wait a few seconds to see if a healer uses Swift.. I just look at their cast bar to see what they're doing. If they're occupied with healing, I'll raise anyone else who dies. Oh. And if the healer is too occupied with his/her own DPS to rez an actual DPS, I'll step in. (And may or may not mention it after the fight, that in almost every situation, a live DPS class would contribute more damage than a healer. Ahem.)

[Veis_Alveare]

in almost every situation, a live DPS class would contribute more damage than a healer.

God, I wish that were the case.

I tend to treat raising as a RDM the same way I do as a healer... mostly.

Do we need a specific person up for a certain mechanic? Okay, time to raise. Do we not? Cool, they can wait for a convenient time for me then.

I'd say the only big difference I find with raising as a RDM versus raising as a healer that I see would be my raise priority. As a healer in anything below Savage I'll raise dps first, tanks second and a cohealer last. This is because that should be the most damage efficient order. As a RDM/SMN I'll raise healers quicker since I'm less confident in random healers being able to solo heal anything for any length of time.

[Gemina]

Leave rezzes to the healers unless:

They are down
Tunnel visioned
Multiple players are KO'd
You're in 24-man (all three scenarios I just mentioned can and will be present in alliance raids)

As a healer main, I do appreciate rezz assistance when the situation calls for it. Macros are a hit or miss, honestly. The thing about macros is that I have yet to find even one that is used in battle where you don't give up one convenience for another. As an example, I thought it would be really helpful to add a a focus target macro to some of my skills so it would do it automatically upon engaging the enemy since I often forget to do this, or switch it from my previous target; but doing this took away my ability to queue up whatever skill I tied that macro to, which ended up being a bigger hindrance than switching FTs.

In the case of a rezz macro, if you tie text to it and your attempt fails for whatever reason, the text still goes off. While this is nothing than a mere annoyance for probably just the caster attempting the rezz, it remains one of those glitches that I prefer to keep out of my own playstyle. Tying text to a rezz macro also leaves a lot to chance. The players that need to see it the most can likely miss it entirely if their chat logs are not filtered appropriately, or if they just aren't paying attention to it.

To be entirely and brutally honest, the only thing casters need so toes aren't being stepped on when rezzes are needed is to pay attention to their party list, which healers in particular should be doing anyway. All the information they need is right there.