Help needed with a DRG macro

[Monsalvato]

Hello, would apreciate any help with this given how I'm not very knowledgeable with macros.
I want to make a Macro for my DRG but I'm not even sure if it's possible.
Here's what I have atm

/micon "True Thrust"
/ac "True North" <me>
/ac "True Thrust" <t>

The concept of this macro is simple.
If True North is off the cooldown the first time I press the button then True North will be used.
Second time I press the button (or first time if True North is on CD) then "True Thrust" will be used instead.

I've applied this logic to other cooldowns/other jobs and it works perfectly.
The problem I'm having here is that True North is an ability with charges.
So if I have 2 charges up what's gonna happen is that True North will be used 2 times in a row.
I was wondering: is there any way I can avoid this? Or should I just give up the idea of macroing True North before the other action?


Thanks for any useful insight on the issue :-)

[shao32]

you shouln't be using macros at all in the first place due the delaying problems they cause (intended desing from the devs) the only time i recomend you using macros is on skills that required ground targeting, for the rest it's better learn how to play without them, it's way more responsive.

[Canadane]

You shouldn't be using macros for battle at all, to be quite honest. They are deliberately designed to be less effective for it.
To answer your concern yes True North will be used again next time you press the button.

But here's the thing, you can't queue up a macro like you can skills directly. The invisible skill queue that allows oGCDs to function and GCDs to fire as soon as they're able to is not used when executing a macro. You'll probably hit the button multiple times before even getting it to work, it wouldn't be as fluid as simply pressing the buttons manually.

[Monsalvato]

I mash buttons regardless, so "having" to hit the button 4 or 5 times is no big deal, I do that anyway.
I want to use it as a macro simply because there's way too many actions to take care of, they are cluttering the buttons on my controller and stuff that's not on the front Cross Bar is harder to access and makes the game less fun for me to play.
But it's okay, if you guys say there is no feasible way to do this, I'll simply leave it be.

Thanks for your response!

[SnowX]

I mash buttons regardless, so "having" to hit the button 4 or 5 times is no big deal, I do that anyway.
I want to use it as a macro simply because there's way too many actions to take care of, they are cluttering the buttons on my controller and stuff that's not on the front Cross Bar is harder to access and makes the game less fun for me to play.
But it's okay, if you guys say there is no feasible way to do this, I'll simply leave it be.

Thanks for your response!

Maybe this thread will help you.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/368682

[Renkei]

I'd avoid it completely, the only ability you can really macro is Dragon-sight and even that isn't optimal, Drg has a lot of double weaving going on so i would recommend optimizing your hot-bar to make space for it, I play DRG with 1 and a half bars perfectly fine but i have to put my self heals on macros which is considered fine (I'm Rank 8 self healing lol) your self heals are the only trim-able abilities.

[Monsalvato]

the only ability you can really macro is Dragon-sight

Personally I disagree.
I apply the same logic I described in the first post to Full Thrust and Life Surge, works like a charm.
Each time Life Surge is off the cooldown it will be used right before I use Full Thrust.
Love it, and it's one less button for me to check/manage, making the actions flow simpler and more streamlined.
It's because I'm liking this so much I wanted to do the same with True North as well ^^

[Canadane]

Personally I disagree.
I apply the same logic I described in the first post to Full Thrust and Life Surge, works like a charm.

Again you'll be losing uptime in small amounts over time when using macros. This isn't something that can be debated, they are intentionally programmed this way.
Now you may not be aiming to be doing Ultimate level content and such and just wanna get by with the effort you have, but it's important to know to downsides to the options available.
I'm glad you're liking it, it may be a little easier with the number of skills you have. It's good to enjoy the way you play, but also understand you'll be met with a lot of opposition in good faith for people trying to help you.

[ForteNightshade]

Personally I disagree.
I apply the same logic I described in the first post to Full Thrust and Life Surge, works like a charm.
Each time Life Surge is off the cooldown it will be used right before I use Full Thrust.
Love it, and it's one less button for me to check/manage, making the actions flow simpler and more streamlined.
It's because I'm liking this so much I wanted to do the same with True North as well ^^

It actually does not. GCD will always drift if placed in a macro. This will inevitably cost you an entire usage of the ability as the fight progresses. There is also a chance either ability will not execute at all, thus your Life Surge won't even proc. This is because unlike pressing a GCD normally, macros don't queue. No matter how you slice it, either macro you're purposed will cause you to lose damage over time.

[Renkei]

I'd avoid it completely, the only ability you can really macro is Dragon-sight and even that isn't optimal.

I think it's important to note that i said it wasn't optimal but still get singled out. I'm not going to tell you that you can't play like that though i was just offering advice.

I'll do you a solid. and share my bar.



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