Why do you think FFXIV is performing so badly form the content creation side?

[Arillyn]

Probably showing my age, but I just don't get watching other people streaming games they are playing. I would rather be playing the game.

But as to why this one doesn't have as much streaming, it's probably a combination of things other people have said - almost all of the content is accessible to everyone, it's heavy story based, it's not pvp based and it's not an esport type of game.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

Wait, I have nothing to say about the way the dev team delivers content, and I like everything we have in the game. My question is "what are we lacking to put the game where it deserves to be in the eyes of the whole videogame community"? If it makes sense.

As we speak FFXIV has 2.800 concurrent viewers on Twitch.tv, which is very very low for the platform. It's under WoW, Black Desert, The Elder Scrolls Online, Old School Runescapce, all other MMORPG that i consider pretty much worse than FFXIV.

Same thing happens on YouTube. Maybe I didn't express myself very clearly: it's not that is performing bad, it's performing much worse than other MMOs

People are too busy playing it to watch it on YouTube/Twitch?

I mean, if you're going by streaming activity, that seems like that's not really an accurate measure of the games's popularity. Especially when there's a warning about Twitch right on the log screen. Most of the time, streaming is done when new content is out--then peters off. WoW and Black Desert have a more robust PvP system which might account for the additional activity but FF14 doesn't really have anything worth streaming when content has already been out for a while.

[ForteNightshade]

Might be a dumb question but are active characters the same as players?

No. Active characters can alts you play that happen to meet the requirements for these census. FFXIVCensus has typically been inaccurate in the past. I recommend Lucky Bancho



https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...y_2020_active/

[Nezerius]

But don't you want some... person sitting in his dirty room, AFKing in (endgame hub de jour) watching reaction videos for 18 hours a day before being carried thorugh content because he is "famous".

Seriously, I never saw the appeal xD

Reaction content isn't even the majority of his streams. He does plenty of other stuff nowadays, like contests, mount farming, helping random viewers. Then there's stuff like Allcraft, where he interviews notable content creators along with another streamer, or unplanned stuff like his interview with Steven Sharif (Ashes of Creation dev). His streams are just another type of entertainment. Like any type of entertainment, not everyone will find it enjoyable.

While I don't think content creators/streamers are an indication on a game's success, since some games aren't as fun to watch as others, I do think an active content creator scene has the ability to pull more interest towards a specific game.

[Razard]

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... You know I was being hyperbolic for comedic effect, right?

[Nezerius]

... You know I was being hyperbolic for comedic effect, right?

I didn't, since there's plenty of people who would unironically believe that's all he/other streamers do.

[xxvaynxx]

Well to be fair.
The game doesn't have much going on right now so not much to stream.
Usually when a new ultimate hits, the viewership shoots up like crazy.
Streamer like xeno and mr.happy get like...I don't remember actually but they get lots of people watching them. Mostly Mr.happy as he's the most popular as he does more stuff than just FF14 but FFXIV still being his main.

[ItMe]

ForteNightshade, that's good to know. Thanks for the solid info.
Do you know when they're coming out with another census?
It'll be really interesting to compare pre, mid, and post pandemic numbers.

[Gula]

Honestly, for an online game. The best way to get viewers is to have a certain aspects that makes people want to watch.

1. The potential to completely ruin someone else's day
2. The ability to be disappointed and your day ruined.

Griefing is against the ToS, trolling is counted towards harassment and against the ToS, you can't long term screw someone over in PVP, there is no open world PVP, you cannot lose your data over a minor setback, and... the camera/viewership is for the player and not the observer. It's a very specific thing to XIV, but XIV is not fun to watch. As a player I want to set the camera to what I'd like it to be, and it's not a set position with weight.

So for the sake of things people actually look for when they seek videos of online games, XIV does not have it. Heck, people will even watch two people get into a screaming match without gameplay but if you so much as raise your voice to someone through text a player will flinch down like you smacked them with a lead glove. So, I'm fine with XIV not having a ton of player content and things to view on the side. But I do share the sentiment of liking there to be something worthwhile that isn't happy happy joy joy dance videos or random discord calls while footage is on screen.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

Yes but you can't really do that in FFXIV. Just jump in (unless you mean jump potions and... well those might actually be some amusing streams). I mean... who's streaming low level content right now? Most streamers are either streaming high-end content (or tutorials) or they're doing sneak peaks or item promos (or in my case, bloopers). You can't compare a game like FFXIV to PvP/PubG stuff. FFXIV is pretty much just Que, Rinse, Repeat where the end is always the same (either you finish the duty or you don't). Games like Apex and even GTA5 have a million different ways to do the same thing. A match will be different, be more exciting because it has so many factors. I'm not saying that we couldn't benefit from more a more active streaming community I just don't really think there's as much of an audience for it simply because of how the game is. I mean... someone make Eorzean Food Network. Crafting tutorials are notoriously old and bad. I'd watch that.