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  1. #1
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    Y'know, one of the easiest ways to discount the "but men are stronger" thing is to ACTUALLY look in the game. I went into Character Creation ready to write down the initial stats for Male and Female Characters and, you know what happened? They're the same.

    A midlander Male has 22 STR, while a Midlander Female ALSO has 22 STR. A Highlander Male has 23, as well as a Highlander Female. I got as far as Duskwight before I got bored with going back and forth just for the same numbers.

    The only thing in FFXIV that changes your character's starting attributes isn't Race+Gender. It's Race+Clan, but at least in XIV it means there's NO difference in Strenght between males and females (note: I went back to check, this applies even to AU'RA, which means the dainty little lizard girls can lift as much as their taller counterparts, Raen have an initial STR of 19, while Xaela 23). EVEN going by a "center of mass" argument, this is a FANTASY game, where no HUMAN should be able to do a FRIGGIN FRONTLFIP with a near 2 meter long hunk of metal in their arms and yet we do so easily.

    And even then it's taking an extreme example for something that doesn't even need it: DRG's pose makes it so terribly diffficult to point your spear at the ground instead of leaning on it? Is a Y chromosome needed to hold chakrams differently? or knives? or a Celestial Globe that floats in mid-air anyway?

    Just let us choose between the poses, or add more poses AND include the opposite sex's among them
    I have a lot of experience with both bodybuilding and power lifting myself and have probably met more people involved in it than most people will ever even see in their entire lives.
    And in my experience usually the people who really care about the biological differences are people on the outside who aren't even involved at all.

    I mean there are people who are just in complete denial about it too, but for the most part people who actually do this stuff tend to compete more against themselves than other people and cheer each other on.
    And men in these circles are very supportive of women and just happy to see them get involved.
    But then you jump online and people are all being armchair experts about it.

    If anyone should care about this it's me and people that I know, but for some reason we just don't.
    But people online sure seem to obsess about it quite a bit.
    Meanwhile I am just here playing my cute Viera swinging a massive sword and punching dragons so hard in the face that they explode lol.
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    Melichoir's Avatar
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    Desia Demarseille
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Not sure why there's talk of realism. We literally use magic, and we can run around in a bikini and have the same amount of defense (thanks to glamour crystals) as someone whos wearing a fridge.

    People are over complicating this issue. I personally want more weapon idle poses. Yes, give the off sex the idle pose of its compliment, then create an idle pose for ground sit per weapon, or for sitting in chairs. More poses, more idle poses, more customization for fun. Simple as that.
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    TheVigilant's Avatar
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    Seraphiel Warbreaker
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    Phoenix
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
    I personally want more weapon idle poses.
    There isn't a problem with this at all. So do I, and I'd guess most other people. What I dislike is that the unique combat poses, giving each job their distinct identity, should be shared with the rest of the jobs.
    I like the distinction in the art of the game, the way the Gunbreaker uniquely carries their gunblade on their back during their battle stance and the way the Samurai authentically poses their battle stance creatively separates them from each other and I want it to stay that way.
    As for the idle poses, as many as would be added, it would be great.
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheVigilant View Post
    I like the distinction in the art of the game, the way the Gunbreaker uniquely carries their gunblade on their back during their battle stance and the way the Samurai authentically poses their battle stance creatively separates them from each other and I want it to stay that way.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheVigilant View Post
    Do you understand where the word Samurai comes from and why they look and pose the way they do first?
    I do and the Katana is a one sided blade, which makes it safer than most blades to rest on the shoulder.



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    Seraphiel Warbreaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    I do and the Katana is a one sided blade, which makes it safer than most blades to rest on the shoulder.



    That's an idle pose, not a battle stance, there is no problem with it.
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    If anything, we should have the poses from the other classes as well. SAM should totally have access to the Gunbreaker pose.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheVigilant View Post
    Do you understand where the word Samurai comes from and why they look and pose the way they do first?
    Should we ask for all poses being available to all jobs now?
    And next should be all weapons and armors, is it?
    Aren't you satisfied that you already have all jobs on the same character?

    They have wisely chosen to design every job, race and gender with its own fantasy and multiplied their animations thoroughly, and I appreciate it very much.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheVigilant View Post
    That's an idle pose, not a battle stance, there is no problem with it.
    And you specifically objected to my request for a pose. Hence my reply.
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