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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I just want more poses, full-stop.

    Whether they have to implement them as emotes, idles, whatever - I'm at the point that trying to take character screenshots is feeling repetitive because I already used all the good ones three times over.

    A few more emotes like the current "strike a pose" one would be great, whether they're character-specific or universal.
    This is another reason why I really want locks removed as much as possible. With SE's resources being finite it feels like a waste to create something and then keep it from being used. New character-specific emotes would be an improvement over now but it would always be more work or less variety than having universal options.
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    medival greatsword weigh 40 lbs picture swing a 40 lbs on battle feild be a female

    https://www.livescience.com/15128-ar...ht-energy.html

    not mention be overheat on battle field

    think a dark knight and warrior wear full plat armor aswell a paladin. i not suprise the men and woman in ffxiv hold weapon differently.

    men and women have different strength men have strength in are upper body while woman have strength in they lower body area. picture a knight on battle feild wear 55 lbs of armor weild a great sword weigh 40 lbs swing it and tried the heat would killed you alone. not mention pure lost of energy for fight day and night in this armor


    you really can't change male or female model use by game design to respent male and female character all fantasy is basic on reality

    this where my saying come in fantasy and reality are linked one effect the other as does one preceptive of reality does too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    medival greatsword weigh 40 lbs picture swing a 40 lbs on battle feild be a female

    https://www.livescience.com/15128-ar...ht-energy.html

    not mention be overheat on battle field

    think a dark knight and warrior wear full plat armor aswell a paladin. i not suprise the men and woman in ffxiv hold weapon differently.

    men and women have different strength men have strength in are upper body while woman have strength in they lower body area. picture a knight on battle feild wear 55 lbs of armor weild a great sword weigh 40 lbs swing it and tried the heat would killed you alone. not mention pure lost of energy for fight day and night in this armor


    you really can't change male or female model use by game design to respent male and female character all fantasy is basic on reality

    this where my saying come in fantasy and reality are linked one effect the other as does one preceptive of reality does too.
    Meh. Science shows men have higher average strength in both areas than women do. Yes even the legs
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    that is problem true men are consider better in war the woman thought out history i think we can't change reality. through i suppect how men and women hold weapon will be different to how comfortable hold weapon feel to man or woman we can't change that we just got accept it. this why this thread and arguement really has no point to be made you can change how we made in reality and as my saying fantasy is base on reality but also you have true the other part of my saying people who wnat fantasy to be basic proceptive demand reality to be change basic on proceptive. look i like how ffxiv model are and how they hold weapon this really is basic a person proceptive if every else fine with thing why change for fews people proceptive of reality through.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    men and women have different strength men have strength in are upper body while woman have strength in they lower body area.
    I think you mean centre of balance which has nothing to do with strength except indirectly for things like gymnastics rings. Woman need a lot more upper body strength than a man to do the same moves due to their centre of balance being farther away from the horizontal plane of the rings.

    This even makes a difference in mundane things like sitting in a chair. Ask most women and they will tell you that they always either spot the exact position of the seat of the chair visually or with a touch before sitting down in it because if they miss the seat their centre of mass is already below the seat and they have almost no chance to catch themselves and will end up on the floor. Ask a man and they probably don't even think about anything like that and don't think twice about just sitting down in a chair without knowing exactly where the seat of it is because if they miss that have the entire length of their torso before their centre of mass moves below the seat and it's an easy reflex to just catch themselves by adjusting their centre of mass to be over the seat.

    I highly doubt this difference in centres of balance translates to how well someone can lift a large sword, however. A large sword like that would just be a test of strength, not centre of balance.

    All of this is rather moot, however, since this is a fantasy game and the swords we are talking about aren't anything close to being realistic anyway. I can guarantee my scrawny male mi'qote would not be able to lift any DRK sword like that if realistic physics were at play. Heck, I personally wouldn't be able to do it.
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    They are obviously not going with any sort of notion that women are weaker, because that would call into question whether or not they could even be Dark Knights or be able to perform on the same level as male characters. If that were the case that doesn't explain other poses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
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    It's a fxxking video game where you kill gods and ride giant birds and a giant crystal is whispering to you. Let me put my weapon on my shoulder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
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    Did you just not read several posts on the last page? Gender is completely irrelevant here because neither gender could realistically wield 99% of the Great Swords depicted in FFXIV. The only exceptions might be the basic model variants since they're based on actual Great Swords. But you certainly wouldn't be twirling around like some of Dark Knight's animation allow. Which, by the way, aren't gender specific. So even if we were going to use the realism argument. It dies immediately because if a woman can't holster a great sword on her shoulder. How can she possibly do this



    Just for the record. Men couldn't do that either.
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    but the models for character are basic in reality the model ie the really life human male and female people that maybe use for model for character are basic in reality which what i am point out.

    https://www.quora.com/Are-todays-com...k-so-life-like

    seem to me many don't understand how video development is done maybe this site will help you understand alittle better what i mean

    a better term for it is the actors and actoress use for the actions your character does where in fact human fantasy or not every action your character does they was live actors act the emotion out to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    but the models for character are basic in reality the model ie the really life human male and female people that maybe use for model for character are basic in reality which what i am point out.

    https://www.quora.com/Are-todays-com...k-so-life-like

    seem to me many don't understand how video development is done maybe this site will help you understand alittle better what i mean

    a better term for it is the actors and actoress use for the actions your character does where in fact human fantasy or not every action your character does they was live actors act the emotion out to do it.
    This is a non sequitur. Of course they use real human beings as a reference for character design. But there is no reason that should dictate what they are capable of in game. If it did our characters wouldn't be able to do 90% or more of the things they do. None of the characters in the game are human beings. Hyur are a stand in for the typical human race common in fantasy literature and games, but they are not human. All playable characters have some innate magical aptitude, and all playable classes and jobs require this to some degree.
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