The HORRENDOUS State of Housing

[Deslyxic]

I was going to go in a rant but then it occurred to me that for the most part an apartament is good enough, you lack the outdoor glaming, but then if you do instanced housing you would lose that too.
The other two thing you lose is gardening and chocobo stable, I wish there were some form of internal garden for apartments.

[SamSmoot]

wowowow, can you imagine how hard is it to actually do that programming wise!? the server for 6 lock up for EACH player... and they all need to read the customized garden and appearance... holy hell, SE even having a hard time adding glamour plate and you ask for that?

It has to load all the other houses and yards now when a player arrives in the ward anyway, so is it going to make a big difference load up 6 custom ones in place of the default random yard layouts?

[Khalithar]

If you have the gil, you should be able to get a house, period.

Anything less than that is, and will ALWAYS be, unacceptable.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

It has to load all the other houses and yards now when a player arrives in the ward anyway, so is it going to make a big difference load up 6 custom ones in place of the default random yard layouts?

What do you think is easier: loading 30-ish plots or loading hundreds of thousands of plots * 6?

[Mr_Gyactus]

[*]Plot becomes available.[*]Over the next X to 24 hours (still hidden) non land owners walk up to the placard ONCE and put their name in ONCE and leave.[*]During this time any current land owner can walk up and transfer at any time thus closing the raffle (as is now).[*]A winner is decided via RNGesus (or transfer) and money is immediately taken out. If there is not enough to cover the cost their name gets removed from the pool (they get a message telling them why they didn't get the land) and another pull happens. Rinse and repeat until the purchase goes through and the raffle is closed.[*]Upon the raffle closing, everyone who didn't get picked gets a friendly letter from a Housing NPC explaining why.[/LIST]

Uh, no.

your idea is just another layer of RNG, and it adds frustration without adding fairness.

SE added the randomness for a fair reason: bash the house sellers, while you are asking a lottery.

When someone relocate, there is a free house elsewhere, maybe not the house you wanted but inside the houses are all the same...

P.S. don't worry, when SE restarts the demolition time there will be a lot of houses free.

[Arillyn]

While I disagree with you on who should be able to get housing, I think it should be ACCT based not character based. This system allows for 1 person to own 16 houses 1 personal and 1 FC for each of their 8 characters.

This is not entirely true. If you have 8 characters on one server only 1 of those characters can purchase an individual house. It is true that all 8 characters could buy a FC house if they are in a FC with a minimum of 4 characters. This is directly from housing plot. People do get around the minimum FC membership but it's not buying the house from the actual housing plot, it's "buying" the FC from an FC that owns a house.

[MsQi]

What do you think is easier: loading 30-ish plots or loading hundreds of thousands of plots * 6?

If I am reading his idea correctly you would only be loading like 7 custom plots.

There would be a single ward map, most plots would be generic. At the placard you can choose whose plot to enter which could be hundreds. When you enter a plot then it loads.

but when you come to your plot you see your stuff, but still have the option of entering other players' plots at the placard (if they are open to guests or you are a tenant). You would have the option of deciding what you see in 6 nearby plots.

[Skivvy]

What do you think is easier: loading 30-ish plots or loading hundreds of thousands of plots * 6?

Even XIV's archaic predecessor, FFXI, manages to give every single character created it's own moghouse (roughly an apartment-sized floorplan), a second story, a patio, a huge garden instance and monster rearing instance. Granted how XI handles the instances isn't 100% perfect, but it does the trick just fine for an 18 year old game. Other MMOs, including some that are older, have also managed to implement instanced/phasing housing without their systems imploding.

If XIV's system truly can't handle an overhaul, then that's just what it is. But I will say that the frequent limitations in this game has made me incredibly hesitant about wanting to jump into another MMO made by SE. I realize ARR had a rather unique beginning, but that was 7 years ago now and we're still dealing with a large amount of restrictions & limitations in game (Viera/Hroth is one of the more glaring, recent examples).

[Ihaf_Frethyme]

No. Just because you aren't able to log-on at certain times due to work, etc. or log-on quick enough does not make it RNG. The idea you are portraying IS an actual implementation of RNG.

So, Random Number Generation of seconds until it can be purchased isn't RNG? Are you sure about that?

[Ihaf_Frethyme]

Uh, no.

your idea is just another layer of RNG, and it adds frustration without adding fairness.

SE added the randomness for a fair reason: bash the house sellers, while you are asking a lottery.

When someone relocate, there is a free house elsewhere, maybe not the house you wanted but inside the houses are all the same...

P.S. don't worry, when SE restarts the demolition time there will be a lot of houses free.

It's a layer that lets people actually play the game and kills botters. I think you need to go back and reread it. It still had the random timer, existing house owners can still transfer with out entering the raffle. People can only enter once (an idea of getting 1 additional entry when you lose a raffle but I could go either way on that). This still bashes house sellers as they USE BOTS to get houses. Again you say "no" but actually fail to give any substantial reasons why. Lots of that on here; at least you were a bit more polite about it, ty.

House destruction isn't coming back for at least a year then there's the month and a half of time it takes for the hose to actually be destroyed. I'm not holding my breath for that.