Advertising sexual content in party finder

[craybest]

Is this something actually happening? children being groomed in this game by older people?
I have never ever seen it, but I guess being a 30+ year old guy who doesn't RP maybe it's not on the places I go. I always thought on RP and even ERP to be something adults did with other consenting adults.

[Vahlnir]

Is this something actually happening? children being groomed in this game by older people?
I have never ever seen it, but I guess being a 30+ year old guy who doesn't RP maybe it's not on the places I go. I always thought on RP and even ERP to be something adults did with other consenting adults.

Sadly, it is probably something that happens in all aspects of life since the human race can be an awful species at times.

[Penthea]

Is this something actually happening? children being groomed in this game by older people?
I have never ever seen it, but I guess being a 30+ year old guy who doesn't RP maybe it's not on the places I go. I always thought on RP and even ERP to be something adults did with other consenting adults.

I am unfortunately aware of an incident in which someone in their mid-30s was engaging in very inappropriate conversation with a 15 year old. Didn't happen in this game though. But there's no reason why it cannot happen in FFXIV. People are people. Creeps are everywhere.

I personally know WoW GMs and they have told me about incidents in which they had to intervene very predatory behaviour. Sadly it is a thing that happens.

[MintnHoney]

They've got the power to immediately stop the kids' ability to ever see those cards in the digital world - and they've got the power to make a gate through which everyone who wants to hawk them horkers has to first pass through before they start jigglin'.

In essence, they've got the ability to let folks set up partitions (if not make one themselves) which ain't no big deal -- if you like to spread eagle in your backyard, say, for them good vibrations on the daily - your neighbor might wanna build a fence. Or the city might've already mandated you had a fence built, but doesn't much care if you tear it down. That kinda metaphorical meanderin', see.

But, in this case, you don't actually see the "spread" until you go and partake in the activity, or, to keep to the metaphor, until you "hop over the fence" and "enter the yard." Even then, from what I understand, you would normally have to walk up to and have a discussion with the "neighbor" and reach an agreement to "let the eagle soar." Or something.

In another sense, a PF advertisement could be seen as something like a warning: "abandon all hope, ye who come here, and let it be known: a something happens here." I'd go so far as to say it's a fair warning, too, because everyone becomes aware of the possibility that such a thing would happen, and should be able to judge whether or not to avoid the scene of their own accord. If someone gets curious and goes to see it, and then gets shocked and decides they don't like it, that should be ok (in which case, it's advisable not to partake in such activities again, in the future), just as much as someone who goes there and does like what they've gotten themselves into.
Meanwhile, someone who goes where they should not is likely to face consequences for it, often consequences they are not prepared for, and we can only hope that people are good enough to help them avoid such a situation. But bad choices are something that everyone can and will make, and we must allow them that right.

Regarding actual predatory behaviors, should something bad actually be happening, absolutely, be first the report it (even if you're not the first, always treat such situations as if you are). But I feel that rallying to the public for a witch hunt and/or actually starting a witch hunt because of "what ifs" and no evidence is rather unconscionable, even if you only have the best of intentions (with which, as a reminder, the road to hell is paved).

Also, regarding the apps: the thing of it is, the general public is aware of these apps. They are not a secret, or, if they are, they're ill-kept. Keeping things behind closed doors does not necessarily have to mean that the building is hidden from all sight, nor should they be.

[SturmChurro]

Howdy-O, cool cats. I'm one green hubba 'round these pastures, so I can't jaw much 'bout the sitch specific to here, dig? But I can provide some groovy granola to chew on, n'get those good brain-juices flowin'.

LMAO! Too much RP for me to handle, dude. Your avatar too!

[Niervel]

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Well, the fella advertizin' on the corner about how cool the shag carpet in his tricked out mystery machine is... also ain't schtuppin' in public. Just sendin' out a siren-song, which all gotta hear. I suppose it's more that most people here ain't razzin' on people ERPin' in public - that already is game for reportin'. They're throwin' shade instead on... like, havin' to see those advertisements when they don't want to. The idea is that the opt-in shouldn't be joinin' up with these gropin'-groups, but that the opt-in should first come to be -seein'- these groups in the first place. I think that's more what the reasonable cats in this crib have been singin' a tune to. Once a fella opts-in to taste such a salacious sultry spice, that motha ain't got no recourse to say the cooking's whack, dig?

So it becomes more synonymous to our meatspace-equivalents: everyone knows 'bout the aps existin', but I don't got to see no-one braggin' 'bout how they're lookin' for a big, thick-thighed foxy momma to come on down and do the dishes unless I install 'em. Folks still gonna know if they hit the poon button, they can easily find that underbelly - but they get the choice to never hafta get whalloped by anythin' erotic while just lookin' to slap some NPC buzzkills with pals.

The sad, sorry state of groomin' is that you ain't gonna be able to report it most the time. You ain't normally gonna be able to notice - best intervene if you do, even if it's breakin' the whole social harmony. The bugged-out freaks that go for that stuff generally try to isolate their marks, n'go for folks what ain't gonna make a big stink about it. Addressin' -those- kinds of folks is somethin' that is a lot more nefarious than anythin' discussed up above, and I ain't got no light bulbs in the ol' noggin for that topic. That's the kinda stuff that you want to report to law enforcement - but without hard evidence, ain't exactly a real skip-to-my-lou-my-darlin'. That one you can really only prevent by preppin' your kids, gettin' to know what they're gettin' up to, and even then.

Rest assured, though, the kinda draconian measures it might take to go after -all- preds ain't what I think folks is more broadly lookin' for. I think they just wanna be able to not hafta see nothin' to do with the fact that some folks is chokin' their various forms of poultry 'round 'em. Outta sight, outta mind - they just wanna be able to make it outta sight. An' there's a way to do that without forcin' it to be outta sight for those that wanna partake, s'my take - though I do prefer the opt-in option to opt-out, if one were to take the idea of a text/string-based filter.

LMAO! Too much RP for me to handle, dude. Your avatar too!

'Fraid there ain't no off-switch for a Casanova, and Eorzea's cryin' out all quiet-like for more pompadoured chaplains of cool to mosey on down and spread some peace, love, and little donuts. Disco ain't no Aerith - we can bring it back.

[Gothicshark]

I see no issues here, I wish people got more outraged with gore and violence than sexuality. It's like sure let kids watch a slasher flick blood and gore everywhere, two guys kiss, OMG shut down disney, outrage, outrage, outrage.

ERP is perfectly normal, and natural, I don't personally do it, as I seldom even RP, but let people enjoy the game the way they want, let them find like minded individuals. No issues, really non. As for kids finding and doing ERP, it's going to happen, there are some built in features that limit kids, but frankly it should be parents that monitor their kids. Which sadly my generation turned out to be crappy parents, and even lazier Grand parents.

[Gothicshark]

Is this something actually happening?.

odds are No. At least not in game.

children being groomed in this game by older people?

no, I could see it happening outside of the game, and it does happen often, but in-game, no.

What I do think can happen is a kid playing the game pretending to be over 18 gets involved, I'm sure that happens in all online environments as well. If you want to keep kids out of this, get them a PS4, no keyboard, and keep the game system in the living room while checking in often. Otherwise, nothing can be done.

BTW, I am a bit creeped out with lala's involved in ERP, but that is a whole other subject.

[Penthea]

odds are No. At least not in game.

no, I could see it happening outside of the game, and it does happen often, but in-game, no.

What I do think can happen is a kid playing the game pretending to be over 18 gets involved

You do realise the reverse can happen, right? People in their 40's could pretend to be 15. And it is something that happens. I know WoW GMs who dealt with exactly this happening. It's pretty common for predators to lie about their identity to get what they want from their target, and it's of course super easy to do this online.

[Gothicshark]

You do realise the reverse can happen, right? People in their 40's could pretend to be 15. And it is something that happens. I know WoW GMs who dealt with exactly this happening. It's pretty common for predators to lie about their identity to get what they want from their target, and it's of course super easy to do this online.

yeah, I also remember that the FBI use to sting creepy predators using that method.


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