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    There is a little more involved than for normal speed runs, but this setup could easily be optimized for 5-chesting. Normally we fight Coincounter with 1 WAR, 2 WHM, 3 BLM, 2 BRDs (2 WHMs for safety). We get to Coincounter around 52:30-53:00. Being very conservative, let's say you start at 52:00 and take 4 minutes to kill him. That leaves 48:00 on the clock. 1 WHM and 1 BRD can switch to BLM at this point. You will have Convert up around 40:30, or if you plan ahead, you can start fighting Miser around 41:30 and have it ready mid-fight. Alternatively, if your tank is skilled enough for Coincounter, you can solo WHM heal him with 5 BLMs and 1BRD. This would eliminate the convert problem altogether. The only other job switching is the WHM switching to BRD and back. With macros that is maybe a 20 second penalty.

    The reason our time (started Miser around 18:15) is so low is we took an extra precaution and got our tank to full TP with Paeon beforehand while also talking over our strategy (we made a lot of mistakes our first attempt ). In hindsight though, this turned out not so useful as our tank ended up slept/paralyzed most of the fight anyways. Also, in the video you see 2 BRDs right before Miser. This was to get BV Ballad and BV Minuet up before fighting. In our subsequent attempts, we noticed that this was overkill and we only needed a normal Ballad. A lot of the stuff we did in this video is a little over-the-top and we've since streamlined it to the process listed in the OP. Honestly if we did a flawless 5 BLM run on Miser, I could easily see <1:40 maybe even around 1:30. But a group with average single/double melded gear should be able to execute this speed kill.

    If I had to give a total optimized 5-Chest run setup it'd be

    [60:00]BLM x 4, WHM x2, BRD 2x Until Coincounter
    [53:00]BLM x 5, WHM x1, BRD x1, WAR x1 For Coincounter Fight
    [50:30]BLM x 5, WHM x 1, BRD x1, WAR x1 Up until the portal to the Miser room
    [46:30]BLM x 5, BRD x 2, WAR x1 For BRD to cast Ballad
    [46:00]BLM x 5, WHM x 1, BRD x 1, WAR x 1 Miser Kill
    [43:30]Miser Dead

    Of course that'd be a flawless run. I'd tack on like 30s-1min to each section. But you'd still end up with plenty of time left. Also you sacrifice the safety of having 2 WHMs, so is killing that much faster really worth the loss of safety? That's up for debate. For a safety 5-Chest run

    [60:00]BLM x 4, WHM x2, BRD 2x Until Coincounter
    [52:00]BLM x 3, WHM x2, BRD x2, WAR x1 For Coincounter Fight
    [48:00]BLM x 5, WHM x 1, BRD x1, WAR x1 Up until the portal to the Miser room
    [41:30]BLM x 5, BRD x 2, WAR x1 For BRD to cast Ballad
    [41:00]BLM x 5, WHM x 1, BRD x 1, WAR x 1 Miser Kill
    [38:30]Miser Dead

    Anyways, it'd be about 4 Job changes and transitions well with a 5-Chest Run.
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    Last edited by Seiken; 04-08-2012 at 04:52 PM.