Class Trees

[AceofRains]

Considering the trouble they had balancing Summoner and Scholar while they were attached to each other, I really do not see it happening at all, especially since they have said they will never do it again and the way the 2 jobs are handled now, it wouldn't surprise me if they were fully split next expansion.

Jobs don’t need to share anything other than EXP for this to work. The problem with Summoner and Scholar was not their nature of binding to Arcanist- that’s their greatest strength, that you have a 2 in 1 role swap. The problem was that they tried to share so many abilities instead of letting them be their own unique things but still come from Arcanist’s level.

Sharing Bio and Ruin doesn’t seem to prove problematic. there almost the same as how almost melee job has a 3 step combo. Those were the “Weaponskills”. It was other things like Aetherflow, Shadowflare, Bane, and other DPS things that made Scholar far superior to the other Healers when it came to DPSing. So they ended up gutting them, a decision that I wholeheartedly agree with.

They could even revamp the pre-30 levels of each class that give you a taste of both paths, but you lose them when you specialize. For example, Arcanist has access to Physic, which is neat early on, but we know when it becomes Summoner it’s absolutely useless and therefore should no longer exist on Summoner. Or even Summoner losing access to Ressurection. (If they wanted to be thematically cool about it, Phoenix should be able to Raise only while it’s Summoned.). Scholar lost access to bane and fester. Idk. It’s common sense to me.

[Eliadil]

For example, Arcanist has access to Physic, which is neat early on, but we know when it becomes Summoner it’s absolutely useless and therefore should no longer exist on Summoner.

They could just give a trait to SMN to make Physick scale with Intel instead of Mind, just like with RDM's VerCure. Then the spell would look suddenly much better, and SMN would be nerfed accordingly while keeping its identity.

[AceofRains]

They could just give a trait to SMN to make Physick scale with Intel instead of Mind, just like with RDM's VerCure. Then the spell would look suddenly much better, and SMN would be nerfed accordingly while keeping its identity.

I guess that’s an option too, but now that Summoner would heal it takes away from what makes Red Mage special, and even more away from the Healers responsibilities. The reasonable option is just to remove the useless action from the job and possibly replace it with something more useful.