Quote Originally Posted by ThePatriarch View Post
I don't think since release that 12,000 people have been online at any given time. Maybe 6, on a weekend. I'm sure we have server counts somewhere.

There may be alot more than 12,000 players, but I'm talking about "active subscriptions" (people paying to play)
you are still comparing an established MMO that started out in an unsaturated MMO market that didn't attempt to rebuild itself from ground up. I could say the exact same thing about WoW vs FFXI.