Pause and Think before Shouting

[Krausus]

I don't think since release that 12,000 people have been online at any given time. Maybe 6, on a weekend. I'm sure we have server counts somewhere.

There may be alot more than 12,000 players, but I'm talking about "active subscriptions" (people paying to play)

you are still comparing an established MMO that started out in an unsaturated MMO market that didn't attempt to rebuild itself from ground up. I could say the exact same thing about WoW vs FFXI.

[ThePatriarch]

you are still comparing an established MMO that started out in an unsaturated MMO market that didn't attempt to rebuild itself from ground up. I could say the exact same thing about WoW vs FFXI.

At this time in Final Fantasy XI's existence (2 years in) the game had 190,000 active subscriptions. Care to debate your prior statement?

WoW blew FFXI out of the water in every possible instance if we are talking about Subs. It is the largest MMO in the history of, well.. ever.

[Krausus]

At this time in Final Fantasy XI's existence (2 years in) the game had 190,000 active subscriptions. Care to debate your prior statement?

WoW blew FFXI out of the water in every possible instance if we are talking about Subs. It is the largest MMO in the history of, well.. ever.

you just made my point, does that make WoW a better game? No, and neither does your comparison of FFXI vs FFXIV sure I liked FFXI for about 6 months and I was done with it, I have stuck with XIV since beta with no absences. even with FFXI's amount of content I still like this game better and numbers will not change that, just like people liking XI better then WoW.