Belah'dia and Sil'dih Lore?

[Veloran]

I'm not sure the lore we have on when the Hyur came to Eorzea is accurate, given they seem to have been present at least in both Allag and Mhach fairly significantly.

[MikkoAkure]

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He is referred to as both steward and sultan. The point of me referring to that in the first place is that he and his descendants were only sultans until the city-state became stable enough to hand power over to the original family. The first mention of the Thorne family came from one of the 1.0 Little Ladies’ Day events and I remember because I was there and also confused back then since I had thought they were lalafell all the way down. Been wondering what the deal was there until it was finally spelled out.

According to Astro lore The Balance is represented by Nald and Thal, representing life and death, and Azeyma keeping the equilibrium as warden of the scales. Aside from fitting Sophia to a T, this also draws parallels to the whole of the Warring Triad, with Sephirot being a god of life, Zurvan being a god of death, and Sophia being the equilibrium between the two forces.

I think it could be more the other way around, with these beliefs traveling to Meracydia before the time the Allagans came. Similar beliefs in the Twelve exist as far as Othard as well. But after the time of the Allagan Empire, Meracydia became a chaotic wasteland and I don’t think any of its inhabitants are in any position to travel to Thanalan to influence religion.

I'm not sure the lore we have on when the Hyur came to Eorzea is accurate, given they seem to have been present at least in both Allag and Mhach fairly significantly.

This is another weird lore welding thing the writing team had to do for ARR. In 1.0, we hear about the immigration of non-elezen to Eorzea as if they’d never been here before. In ARR, apparently hyur left much of Aldenard after the calamity and had to come back in different waves of immigration. I believe there’s some interview with Koji where this is brought up. I still don’t understand why Mcachian hyur didn’t come to Thanalan either and it was just the dunesfolk. That’s another weird ARR lore loophole caused by their inexplicable decision to write in all the calamities.

[Veloran]

The point I was getting at is that there seems to have been a fair degree of cross pollination going on between Meracydia and Eorzea at one point. When that would be is open to speculation. As for the Hyur, there is at least a reason for them to have migrated away for a time, considering the massive floods. It does seem kind of unbelievable that there were none present in either Gelmorra or Ishgard (or Dravanian Ishgard for that matter) though.

[Monte318]

Was just watching this video on the history of Ul'dah, Belah'dia and Sil'dih and jumped over to the lore forums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4ikLQIHIUE

[Gula]

Was just watching this video on the history of Ul'dah, Belah'dia and Sil'dih and jumped over to the lore forums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4ikLQIHIUE

Take these videos with some caution. Guy's been wrong before sans literally spelling out what words mean.

[Jaywalker]

Hey everyone, wanna take a sec to say thanks a ton for the help with this! Got offline-busy for a bit, but still plan to research further and this really helped a lot! ^^ I did see the Ethys Asher youtube and figure there are very good points to consider, also found the regent versus sultan question really interesting and helpful. I do think it makes sense that there is some kind of commonality between Meracydia, Belah'dia, Sil'dih, and Ul'dah but right now would want to examine closer before reaching definitive conclusions. I'm honestly still really fascinated by them having a lot of stone-manipulation given both the golems used by Ascians and stone manipulation in conjury given this is all post-War of the Magi and might be fun to speculate there. More comments always welcome and if I spot anything will absolutely throw it over, just want to say I appreciate the feedback! You guys rock!