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    Player
    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    This entire thread should have stopped after this post. Why is this thread so long?
    Some people think every job should have dots, like in ARR, and since then DoTs have been slowly removed from most jobs. This is by design, because ARR was about managing DoTs and job-specific stacks. Now, dots are going away and jobs have job gauges instead. DoTs themselves are no longer interesting. Just a thing to press every 30s. They're fine for tanks and healers, but unless they interact with a job gauge like BRD and BLM, DoTs aren't interesting for DPS to maintain other than forcing melee to switch between a direct damage combo and a combo that grants a buff and inflicts a DoT for flavor. There's no reason for -every- job to have to manage them
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    ShariusTC's Avatar
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    Shadelia Sunshooter
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 100
    just design a job to use them instead just delete them, or speard it accross all job like this now

    i think BRD is a good job to focus on DOT and SMN should be free from DOT
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Well while we're at it, I think we should remove the first two parts of a 3 button combo and skip straight to the the finish cuz those 3rd parts are the biggest and coolest.

    And maybe we could prune more stuff from our arsenal, like shaving healer's two attack skill to just one and make the game exciting even more for them.

    Casters don't need all those skills either. Just have smn use only bahamut, red mage should just have grey meter from mixing white and black gauge and blm should only have access to flare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Stepjam's Avatar
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    Gabriel Morgan
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Yeah, no, thats a bad idea. Combat is already pretty simple, removing dots would make it more so.

    I wouldn't mind is bard got a bane skill next expac though. Maybe on iron jaws
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    Ririta Rita
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    Press a button every 20 seconds. Very stimulating.
    This is what I thought when they turned Shadowflare into a cooldown. It went from a consciously casted spell, that had its costs and benefits, into a free "press this button when it lights up" cooldown...
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    Lucy_Pyre's Avatar
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    Lucy Pyre
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Nothing is stopping you from ignoring Higanbana on SAM. Well, other than being a trash SAM if you were to actually do that. On a less snarky comment, DoTs tend to be the highest potency-per-GCD ability that most jobs have, even moreso in the case of something like SMN which can apply its DoTs through an oGCD weave. Removing DoTs is just a bad idea all around.
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    StriderShinryu's Avatar
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I honestly hate DoT management but don't think they should go away entirely. I will agree that they do feel very awkward on SAM though. I'd be fine with some classes being very DoT heavy and others being free of them entirely.
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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Character
    Loud Jungle
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 60
    Remove egis, that's the one dot that should be removed.
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    Basic Blake
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    God I hope so. Every time I see someone like “this class needs a dot” “this class needs another one”.... I just sigh.
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
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    Conjurer Lv 71
    Press a button every 20 seconds. Very stimulating. Yeah, many DoTs should just go. Same with these asinine skills that just do damage every 20 or so seconds without any prerequisite. What's the point? It's just there so we can pretend we got a new skill.
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