Alchemist's Poison's

[Medura]

Ok, im a 50 alchymist, nothing i make is worth anything, the ingredients are worth 10 times as much.

I make a Paralyzing Potion, it is a level 50 recipe, it lasts 10 seconds, and has a recast of 2 MINUTES.

It is like saying "You can't use this poison yet, extreme use could kill your enemy of an overdose, and you dont want that, right?

make em have a resistance to it and remove poison cooldown, COMPLETELY. Because at this moment, noone cares about alchymist, because all potions are complete crap. Even elixir is on low demand, it is 7.5 minutes, this means you cant even use it 2 times in the ifrit battle. Make poisons max 15 seconds, make potions make 2 minutes, else noone is ever gonna give alchymist a second thought. You even ormised you would fix alchymist and also said you had done it last patch.

[Fayette]

I think the issue is also the fact that we have played over a year and a half without using anything like pots/poisons/enfeebling stuff just fine and since it really isn't "necessary" for using; it also takes up inventory space.

I'm a 50 Alch as well and it is quite sad

Plus with usually 2 WHM's in groups with the Esuna spell, gold needles aren't really needed either except in VERY rare instances when both WHM's are petrified and another job has to throw needles on them.

[Tibian]

Don't forget the completely useless stat potions, those too (even while being new) are completely worthless.

Alchemy needs some revisions still.

[Sol_Aureus]

Don't forget the completely useless stat potions, those too (even while being new) are completely worthless.

Alchemy needs some revisions still.

Yeah, getting a 30 second 125 attack and 40 STR bonus on miser during hundred fists is so useless.

[darkstarpoet1]

Yeah, getting a 30 second 125 attack and 40 STR bonus on miser during hundred fists is so useless.

i think his point was more that for the cost of the materials the finished items aren't worth the price that come with them. yes, they are very useful if you, or someone else you know, makes them. if you have to buy them from the wards at 4-5000 each then it's too expensive for their value.

[Medura]

Yeah, getting a 30 second 125 attack and 40 STR bonus on miser during hundred fists is so useless.

it certainly is, its lasting a short while, gives little reward, got a long cooldown, and the ingredients to make them is worth ten times as much as the potion itself. Potions should a) be very good, or b) be able to use in masses with no to very short cooldowns. I dont know one FF game where i couldnt use as many potions i wanted in a row, why not also here? Or rather, make it a shorter cooldown the higher level of the potion. For example, disabling potion = paralyzing potion + poisoning potion and is a level 28 recipe. Pasralyzing potion is a 49 recipe, costs 50k to make 2 and sells for 1k each.

[Jynx]

It's allready pretty damn powerfull being able to heal 600 HP with just the use of a item.

You want something worth the cost then? Go farm some Vampire plant and get some Elixers made.

*edit*

I don't mean money cost, but for you "Full recovery"

[Medura]

It's allready pretty damn powerfull being able to heal 600 HP with just the use of a item.

You want something worth the cost then? Go farm some Vampire plant and get some Elixers made.

I did, they sell for 20k on market, that is 15k gil per hour if you farm for them frequently. Vampire plant sell for 20k on market, what to buy, elixir or vampire plant? id sell the plant. (The plant also sells more frequently than elixir.)

edit:
600 hp is nothing, its 5 seconds with cure as any class. The same time it takes to find and use that mega-potion.

[Jynx]

I have to disagree while Alchemist needs some tweaks.

Mega Potions have been a life saver for me and my LS loves me for suplying them. I also farm all my materials and if you don't most crafts don't really put out a cost/craft favorable ratio. Get a Linkshell with some DoL and work out a deal with them I assure you they wont not sell stuff to you at a discount.

[Skies]

For real... People saying that the devs should make [x] stronger because the price of the materials is far too high is sincerely the worst argument possible. You're asking king to attempt to fix the one thing that is absolutely NOT their goddamn fault, it's completely, 100%, the player's fault the price things go for in the market, nobody is interested in even trying to start a change in the market.