Shared Classes Are Not Failures (ie SCH/SMN)

[AceofRains]

God this thread is a mess.

Yes I agree. Thank you trolls.

As to your query I don’t think, I directly addressed that. Too many people derailing the important aspects of talking about it, so thank you for bringing that up. I think the best thing under a system like this would be to drop the requirements all together and simply award the job stones. This would mean that if you were say a level 1 Archer still, but had a class like let’s say Gladiator at 50, you can still get the stone, you’d just play Samurai or Bard from level 1 or what ever your Archer level is. Dragging the level up is only something that would take effect for players who already unlocked the job and had a pairing with a higher level. So if you already unlocked Samurai before the consolidation, and your Archer was still 1, it would get dragged up to Samurai’s level. For new players it would make their choice of class early on more meaningful.

For the purpose of this example, I also forgot talk about Bard at level 30. Archer is Bard before 30, so not having that job stone yet wouldn’t make much a difference.

I do hate the tedium. I’m not going to sugarcoat that. But leveling 10 classes instead of 20 jobs cuts it in half. That’s fair, because there are those who enjoy the leveling process. The role gear at endgame allows roles to essentially share an Item level so that basically already exists.

So like I said addressing your query, it’s only for those who unlocked before consolidation. Anyone new that hasn’t unlocked has to rely on the level the respective class is, which would give them a far longer windows to learn their job. I don’t particularly care for the mindset of babying players, but I know I can learn fast enough, and won’t just jump into end game content even when I know a job well. You are right, it is good game design to block out what’s new so people have time to adjust. But a lot of that should be up to the player as well. Every time a new champ comes out in league there are people who take it into ranked. Sometimes the first time pick sucks and sometimes they dominate. Never am I going to expect perfection out of random matchmaking because people still make mistakes on a role they know in and out. I can’t speak for everyone of course, but conversely I don’t really get why those who want to level grind every job has to speak for everyone.